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OMG: I am a man. I am a feminist. Men: why aren't you a feminist?

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  1. This will go over well. Yup.

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  2. Because I believe men are the superior gender and the end goal of feminist female supremacy will lead to nothing other than the downfall of society.

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    1. Matriarchy ftw

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    2. Whatever yo, works for elephants.

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    3. Funny you should mention this considering every major war in history and the slaughter of indigenous populations was orchestrated by idiot men. Just saying.

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    4. "Funny you should mention this considering every major war in history and the slaughter of indigenous populations was orchestrated by idiot men. Just saying"

      And the women cheered when they did. Huzzah! More fertile farm land to feed my babies!

      Not to mention the fact that feminism is essentially systematically slaughtering the white race by reducing the birth rate further and further every year, while promoting whoredom and race mixing.

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    5. 2d - Wait, so you're actually serious? That is so sad...

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    6. I didn't write comment #2, but only 2d, and of course I was serious.

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    7. Most wars were needed to cull the youth from overpopulation. A handful of men were usually in power to achieve this.

      Overpopulation was the result of many women not closing their legs.

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    8. Lol what, 2g?

      I kind of agree, in terms of the poorest people having a ton of kids due to no birth control/abortion but... This isn't true in general.

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  3. because you sound like you want some SJW pussy.

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  4. How refreshing OP, so am I. So it's you, me, and Justin Trudeau. Anyone else care to come out as a male feminist? I think we have a role.

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    1. Indeed you do: sucking dick.

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    2. +1 for 4a. As a woman I have no respect whatsoever for male feminists. Just sounds to me like a bunch of weaklings trying to get pussy.

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  5. People say feminism is about equality between both sexes. But then why does the name only reference females? I'm not questioning the motives of self-proclaimed feminists, but the name is a relic of a time when women were oppressed far more than they are now. Today's feminism is completely different from the feminism of 100 years ago. It's a different movement.

    Change the name to reference 21st century goals, and I'll be interested.

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    1. Emma Watson spoke to the United Nations on this in 2014.

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  6. I'm a male feminist. A lot has been achieved over my life time, but I still run across the occasional dinosaur who doesn't like a woman in the team because she couldn't possibly be a good hacker

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  7. Because I believe in a gender-neutral society. If we can have gender-neutral bathrooms why do we not have gender-neutral fitness centres? Feminists love to be victims to receive special treatment, it's essentially the West's reverse version of Islam. Sexist ideology.

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    1. because neutral doesn't exist. Equity vs equality

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  8. Male feminists are pussies. I bet you would let your future/current wife fuck other dudes like the digusting cuck that you are. Why? Because as a male femininst you shouldn't be suppressing her desires. Grow a fucking spine.

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    1. That's one very silly straw man you just tore apart.

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    2. http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html

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  9. ATTENTION: Pardon the length, but I feel that this needs to be said, even if no one responds or if I get comments.

    Why am I not a feminist? There are many problems fundamentally of being a male feminist, which I hope to describe in detail below:

    a) The root word of it all does not imply equality, but rather preference of one sex's achievement of rights to be apparently equal to the others. It's why I identify with egalitarianism instead; I understand that BOTH sexes have issues regardless of the spotlight that one is apparently getting. Sure, they all have the same end goal of a level playing field, but if your foundation is strong and the structural members are weak, the house is still fragile.
    b) Predominant push of one sex's agenda at the cost of the other. Yes, I understand "not all feminists are like that" and "feminism fights for equality", but the minute you bring awareness to male issues or the unfairness with this agenda, the feminazis come out of the woodwork like vultures to a carcass when you choose to plainly ignore their apparent bias in their posts. Each sex, fundamentally at least, is inherently looking out for the future legacy of their own sex and achievements within it (eg. I feel proud when a man is able to conquer all odds in the face of death much like a woman is when another woman achieves the same). However, this should not be construed into a single sex focus. Both sexes have strengths and weaknesses and biologically, will never be the same. Both sexes are losing their uniqueness that attracted each other in the first place, and through dating one can clearly see that a male who is confident and assertive within consent goes further than one who asks every step of the way. Much the same as women are damn good at pain tolerance for child birth, and are often more considerate than male counterparts when it comes to understanding and peace. Both parties contribute together to one strong unit, which is severely lacking now.
    c) Feminism is now a sexual tool/politically correct option. There's countless blogs about how feminist ladies will never date feminist guys because many use it as a door to a lady's pants, even asking for nudes after small talk. These people have been given derogatory terms nowadays, but the fundamental truth is that ladies like a manly man who does manly things and is unapologetic of his behavior except for when absolutely necessary. Much like guys adore a feminine woman who is in touch with her emotions that a guy clearly cannot replicate. Political correctness is also a massive bandwagoning system that tries to get approval/money/other benefits/recognition according to what is popular right now, as observed by our current Prime Minister and even uW, both of which are laughed at by people who look into the details and question the system. It's practically advertising without the contract.
    d) Same old stupid arguments about wage gap, patriarchy, rape culture etc. which have been constantly disproven by countless studies and professionals in these fields. Yet I've never met a feminist who actually looks into the data instead of blindly believing what is said to them for face value. It's all shock tactics/propaganda...we've lost the ability to critically think about what we observe and instead just go along with it for acceptance into social circles or because of selective truism. So much for higher education as a tool for critical thinking, eh?
    e) "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. Every feminist I've battled cannot handle my logical arguments, instead backing away from the initial claim he/she made as I point more flaws. I don't care if you don't want to waste time, but at least civilly have an argument with me without trying to cut me off and shut me down when I have not done the same to you. Peaceful resistance is quite a beautiful thing.

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    1. f) Equality has become a synonym for "you fucked me over all these years, so now I get my payback". Equality will never truly exist...someone has to suffer for someone else to gain. It's why we're so hell bent on capitalism and why it consumes us whole and even why history has been the way it is. World War 3 is on its way, so clearly equality isn't really doing all much good vs. the laws and armies we put in place.
      g) Ease of offense - if we're fighting for equality, shouldn't we have the same acceptable standard of tolerance? I swear, the minute you point out a flaw in a feminist rationale, he/she claims harassment when any logical individual would argue and try to see your points. This is intertwined to issues within each sex that deals with gullibility and emotional dependence on acceptance, both of which exist far too much in both sexes. I think it's a double standard that people complain about catcalling when every guy I've met is seemingly okay with being catcalled himself. Isn't it time for a revolution in this sense? Why can't we just complement each other on attractiveness without sounding like pigs to either sex?
      h) Loss of moral compass along the way - modern feminism's foremothers have similar tactics and ideas to Marxism and Nazism, such as putting men in concentration camps and allowing ladies to sign them out as they need them. No thanks to association with this. The first movement for feminism was great, but equality issues have pretty much vanished in the Westernized world, so what the hell are they complaining about? It's simple economics in a case of professional sports...if the men generate the money through advertising and promotions and even action on the field, of course they'll get paid more even if they're shit! I mean, look at Toronto's male sports teams...some of the worst in the league (in the past) and they're still worth more.
      i) Reliance on emotion as an ace up the sleeve - this is moreso directed towards rape claims/cases, but times are changing. Gone are the days where someone's words were enough to validate a rape claim (which I might add, have been disproven 20-30 years AFTER the raper went to jail).If we don't believe in proof beyond a reasonable doubt, then murderers could be walking free because of how sorry they looked. We need to teach people responsibility for actions...if you get raped, collect evidence and get it noted down right away. Physical proof is what drives the world forward, and although it’s a shame that some police systems do overlook these claims, it would have been a lot different if solid proof existed since sexual residues last a few hours and that dirty feeling you try to get rid of by having a shower gets washed away with every ounce of evidence you have.
      j) Inherent bias within the system - critical mass exists! Most employers know the benefits of having a gender diverse workforce, which makes sense but it's a very fine line with the argument of sex vs. talent for two equal individuals. Also, I'm almost certain that no woman wants to hear that this bias exists, so how can we overcome it?

      Tl;dr = I'm not a male feminist because there are flaws in the system. I fight for equal rights whenever I can, but both sexes need the spotlight.

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  10. because feminists are stupid.

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  11. Because women are equal to men, but drastically different.

    Women have no place in politics or the work force. They should be at home raising kids so we can stop importing all this "human" garbage to keep our population afloat.

    I dream of a society where only white men over 25, who are employed and have children can vote. Everyone else is irrelevant.

    Don't have kids? You have no stake in the country's future then.

    Under 25? You make horrible decisions. Brain isn't fully developed.

    Woman? You make horrible political decisions. You vote for more immigrants, abortions, taxes, bigger government, gun laws, censorship etc etc... Everything men built for you, you tear down in the name of an idiotic social construct called "Feminism" that was invented ((you know who)) in order to genocide the white race.

    It's working marvellously too. We haven't reached German levels (yet) but our women are barren until 35+ years of age and we are importing more niggers and Muslims every year. It doesn't end well.

    There will be civil war if things continue this way. The funny thing is, it doesn't matter which side wins. If the alt-right wins, women lose the right to vote and go back to raising children. If the Muslims and other various shitskins win, same thing.

    I hope I was as offensive as possible. Feminism is a cancer on all of humanity. Even the god damn chinks know this. They are banning ALL feminist media in their country to protect their family values.

    The west is doomed. And you can thank women for it.

    I misspoke earlier. There is no "white genocide". It's white suicide: and women are the ones pulling the trigger.

    I hope it was worth it, ladies.

    I hope when you're 40 and childless, going through fertility treatments, you remember what I said. I hope you feel stupid, I hope you feel endless regret over wasting your best years trying to be a man.

    You will never get your youth back. You will be an old, useless, shitty mother, if you even have children.

    Fucking useless cunts.

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    1. I love you. I'm not gay and I hate faggots but you have the right to fuck me in the ass for this.

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    2. That's one way to pledge loyalty... Lol

      The men in the west are waking up. You'll have your chance to join something.

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    3. P.S faggots aren't inherently bad. Many of them are very aware of what's going on since they have a sort of "outsider's" perspective to the whole thing. And they don't have to cater to women's bullshit either since they don't need anything from them.

      I can't really make this post without pointing out the obvious: Milo Y.

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    4. Must be fun coming to this site to shitpost with content that would get you arrested for hate speech if you said it in public.

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    5. 12. This is extremely disturbing. Please seek help

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    6. 12, if this is how you truly feel, you really need some help.

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    7. 12d: You're part of the problem.

      No one should ever be arrested for simply saying something unless it's a violent threat.

      12e/f: Fuck off lol

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    8. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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    9. > ((you know who))

      Who? Lord Voldemort? Fucking say it if you're so brave, I dare you.

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    10. Preach, brother! It's about time someone called out these whores on their so called "equality" movement. Couldn't agree with you more.

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    11. Lots of mommy issues in this thread.

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    12. If you hate all women that much, you should try to be like Nikola Tesla, don't reproduce with any woman.

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    13. 12j: Good to hear brother.

      12k: My mom is a fantastic woman, a real mother who stayed home and took care of us as children. Home cooked meals almost every single night, and a loving mother there to guide and help us when we needed it.

      12l: I don't hate all women, just feminists. And I don't even hate them, I just think they're being idiots and wasting their lives etc. etc. I already said this in my post.

      Notice the first line: "Because women are equal to men, but drastically different."

      I love women, but they aren't doing themselves, or anyone else, any favors following Feminist ideals.

      Women can do things that men could never dream of doing. They can raise children a million times better than a man. And yet they throw away all of their natural instincts; they throw away the role that is given to them, and for what? To try and be men? They can't. Men are better at some things too, and it's best you leave them to it and stop getting in the way by censoring them, disempowering them in their communities, and robbing them of a future by decimating our birth rates.

      All the while making us look like cucks that can't control our women on the global stage and opening us up to migrant invasions by Muslims that actually have their wives at home having 5+ kids each and outbreeding us like crazy.

      If this trend continues, I don't think any of you will be singing the same tune when you're older. Assuming you're actually 'Canadians', anyway.

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    14. 12l, what point are you trying to make?

      dumb irrelevant comment.

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    15. LMAO 12n, and what point are you trying to make?

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    16. 12m: You sound like you've got yourself convinced, which must be comforting. I think that all of your opinions are based on oversimplifications unfortunately. I don't really care to convince you of anything, but I will say that saying a "real mother" needs to stay at home and raise the family is just plain wrong. I had home cooked meals EVERY night growing up, and my mom worked all of her life. Either there is more to parenting then what you do for a living, or some people are capable of both which doesn't speak well of those who can't.

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    17. 12i here funny how you dodged my question ��

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    18. 12p: "some people are capable of both which doesn't speak well of those who can't."

      Women are not capable of both. Unless you would like to work yourself/spouse like a slave! Then of course, you can do both.

      "Oversimplifications" ... Lol. Not at all. I just simplified it in this post.

      I think it is you who is oversimplifying the role of a good mother to a woman who works all day and vaguely takes care of her household.

      You wouldn't understand the kind of woman I'm describing since you were unfortunate enough to have a mother who worked.

      I understand people need a dual-income household to live the way they want to. I've worked hard enough, and worked intelligenty, to not require that lifestyle.

      I think your comment that I first quoted says it all. You think stay at home moms aren't doing enough, they aren't good enough. Meanwhile you have no experience of such a mother to speak of.

      Do you think they just lay around watching the pool boy all day or something? You've fallen for all of the feminist propaganda. For some reason women follow this, and they think it's liberating to work and work... "Work sets you free!" they might even say.

      12q: I saw what happened to WPIRG when they named them, I'll stick with ((you know who)), thanks.

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    19. ^ interesting. So you will rather side with radical feminists and left-wingers rather than *you know who*. I see you have your priorities straight.

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    20. Wow 12s, lmao. What parts of my comments sound like I support left-wingers? Dumbfuck.

      Didn't say I support WPIRG, learn English Wang.

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    21. Also, 12p: when I say home cooked meal, I don't mean frozen chicken nuggets she threw in the oven

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    22. 12p here: 12r, there's a third option you know. You can raise your kids to help around the house and have a spouse who takes on 50% of the responsibilities of raising kids and the household. Weird eh? You end up with a clean house, dinner on the table, and a son who doesn't think women are incapable of having careers.

      I guess I shouldn't be surprised after: "They can raise children a million times better than a man." Maybe you're just thinking of one man in particular?

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    23. Jesus Christ you are so annoying. First it's my mother, now my father. My father was clearly a great man, seeing as how he instilled family values in me and gave our family such a great life.

      Children should be at school, participating in sports and extracurriculars, not doing their mother's job because she's too busy.

      Dad can take 50% of raising kids but shouldn't be taking care of housework. Another feminist idea, total garbage.

      Women are capable of having careers, but as you've just proven; not without tremendous help, including from their fucking kids who should be enjoying their youth.

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    24. 12w: Now we're getting somewhere! It takes two to three hours once a week to clean a house top to bottom and a little effort from everyone to keep it that way in between. In my family it was something we did together, building an appreciation of how much effort is required to keep a house clean and teaching responsibility. I know a lot of what I'm saying is putting your family down, but you blatantly accused my mother and millions of working women like her of being bad parents while you're the one that sounds like they were raised an entitled sexist.

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    25. How many kids did your mom have? And did she put you all in daycare for other people to take care of until you were of school age?

      As I said in my original post, birth rates are being decimated. Which is partly due to your idea that women can work and have children. While it is vaguely true, if you assume that people want to work like slaves, especially the father who works full-time then has to come home and work some more. It implies that she won't be having more than the average 1.6 kids, and since she's a career woman, she will probably be having them much later in life. Meaning that they are more likely to be born pre-maturely and have other health problems. And I think older parents have a hard time relating to their kids.

      Furthermore: to touch on that issue with dad I just brought up. He has to work at home too, meaning he will be less likely to put in extra hours at work to get ahead and get promoted etc. He is basically forcing the female ""wage gap"" onto himself with his poor choices.

      Ah, and lastly: a career woman returns to work when their child is a year old, in almost all cases. This means the child is put in daycare to be taken care of by a stranger who has a 2 year "education" in "early childhood education". So those women are the ones forming your child's personality in the first 6 years of their lives, not mom.

      The other problem with going back to work at 1 year old is that you will probably no longer be breastfeeding. Yes, there are pumps and bottles, but the supply will run dry quickly if you're at work all day. Re World Health Organization's guidelines suggest breastfeeding for *at least* two years in order to give your child the best chance at long term health.

      I get what you're saying but that's just cleaning. A housewife does more than cleaning, though.

      Perhaps now it's more clear that I'm not " oversimplifying" anythinf

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    26. 12y Actually, studies have shown that children born to older mothers tend to outperform those born to younger mothers. Because their mothers are more mature, financially stable and better educated, their children receive more and better resources.
      Perhaps that explains something about you.

      Also, your nonsense about the "supply run[ning] dry" is ridiculous. Going to an office doesn't magically make you stop lactating; your body doesn't say "Hey, this isn't my house" and just shutdown.

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    27. 12z, define "younger" and "older", please.

      I'm not talking about teen moms on welfare here, alright?

      http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a538711/how-age-affects-pregnancy

      Read and learn. This is just the first source I found, they all say the same thing, as does the entire medical establishment.

      "Their mothers are more financially stable"

      OK? And? You think a woman who has kids at 25 will just be financially unstable the rest of her life?

      "Their mothers are better educated"

      Ok, so?

      "Perhaps that explains something about you"

      Does it though? I'm a University student, with a great academic record. I'm outperforming the hell out of most people here, and definitely outperforming people from my cultural background.

      Your personal attacks are REALLY weak, and getting old.

      "Also, your nonsense about the "supply run[ning] dry" is ridiculous."

      Uh, no, it's not.

      http://www.lalecheleague.org/llleaderweb/lv/lvdecjan06p123.html

      "There are several breastfeeding challenges that are common among working mothers, including maintaining an adequate milk supply ..."

      As a working mother you are forced to resort to pumping milk. There are several issues with this:

      1. Your milk supply changes throughout the day to suit baby's needs. So they are not getting what the should be.

      2. Breastfeeding is a form of bonding between mother and child. No longer happens through a bottle.

      3. When you go long periods of time (at work) without breastfeeding, the supply runs low, and could nearly stop altogether.

      4. Here is the data for how many women breastfeed (note that countries where women work are MUCH lower) http://data.unicef.org/nutrition/iycf.html
      And here is the WHO's recommendation with regards to breastfeeding:
      "Exclusive breastfeeding is recommended up to 6 months of age, with continued breastfeeding along with appropriate complementary foods up to two years of age or beyond."
      http://www.who.int/topics/breastfeeding/en/

      5. Formula (which most working moms have to resort to in Canada/US) is also horrible for the child, and mom:
      http://www.uabmedicine.org/documents/142028/323354/breast+milk+vs+formula+chart/1b318bf1-5b5e-463d-ba90-2c769db7c863?t=1411081498475

      This is what people feed their children instead of breastmilk: https://primalmeded.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/formula-012.jpg

      "Going to an office doesn't magically make you stop lactating; your body doesn't say "Hey, this isn't my house" and just shutdown."

      Of course not you fucking idiot. It says "there's no baby eating this, why am I producing milk?"

      Get fucking rekt and stop responding already, you're embarrassing yourself.

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    28. Here's a more detailed version before you try to defend formula-feeding as normal:

      https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/1541c5c651c71346?projector=1

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    29. uhhh my bad. I had it saved in an email from someone.

      Here is the picture:

      http://themilkmeg.com/wp-content/uploads/whats-in-breastmilk-poster-canada1.jpg

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  12. @12 What the actual fuck dude. You sound like a deranged psycho and you are discrediting serious arguments against feminism. Keep that shit for /pol/ or stormfront.

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    1. Whatever fuckboi.

      Someone has to say this shit while we still can.

      I'll be happy to tell my grandkids that I wasn't part of the reason they are getting beat up at school by third world human garbage.

      I'll be happy to tell them I tried to warn people about Islam.

      And most of all, I'll be happy to tell my sons that I always spoke out against Feminism as what it is: systematic destruction of the family unit, and therefore our entire race and culture.

      You can dumb it down or make it as PC as you want. What I said is still true.

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  13. Hey everyone. There's a difference between equality and equity. Please learn it: http://schoolsofequality.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/equality-and-equity.jpg

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    1. It seems you're inferring men and women aren't equal. That's an assumption, that if taken as true, has serious implications. You'll have to back that up with some good science on biological differences that show that women are not fit to be in the workplace or in a breadwinning role, and instead should be kept in a child-rearing role. It can't just be taken as self-evident.

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  14. I am a woman and I am not a feminist. Get a life, OP. Now I am expected to get an education when otherwise I'd be able to stay home doing what I much prefer doing. Thank you, fucking feminists.

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    1. You can still stay home, you just need to find the right man to take care of that for you. There are a TON of rich men looking for a younger wife to start a family with in Toronto/Mississauga/Oakville.

      Assuming you don't mind older men, and you have something to offer them as well ;)

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    2. 4a again: but it is good to have a backup plan these days. A lot of men are flaky and don't understand women in relationships very well, so marriages and partnerships are not very stable right now.

      I haven't fully figured out why that is. I think it might be pornography on the male side, and emotional issues on women's side from years of being forced to try to be a man. Once they become mothers, or even just wives, I think it's hard for them to accept being feminine because they think it means weakness and oppression etc.

      Oh, and feminism also supresses masculinity too... So... Everyone is supresses, yay!

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    3. lol yeah a woman definitely didn't write this post.

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    4. Oh yea 15c, there definitely aren't any women in the world who want to have children and be housewives. Nope, none.

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    5. 15d, of course there are, I know that. That's fair. But I've never seen any of them complain about being "expected to get an education," or having to leave the house at all. They sound too much like 12 for me to believe they're different people.

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    6. When did she say she'd never leave the house?

      And it is kind of pointless to get a $50,000 education when you aren't going to use it.

      I am #12 btw. And I didn't write 15. I wrote 15abd

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    7. I am 15, and I can confirm I am a fucking woman. This kinda shit, with you assuming that women like me don't exist, is absolutely disgusting. This is what's wrong with feminism. If I don't adhere to your perception of what "a modern woman" should be, then I am obviously a fake? What the actual fuck???

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    8. I heard a nice anecdote you might like, 15.

      They say that when there's a mountain to climb, men try their best to get to the top. Some make it, some don't. Those who don't accept that it wasn't meant to be.

      When women see the mountain, they try to climb it, and some don't make it. Those who don't make it simply declare where they are at that moment to be the real top of the mountain and insult anyone else who bothers to try and reach that other stupid top.

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    9. ^Anecdotes are generally more well-written than that. That sounds like a poorly cobbled-together opinion of one asshat.

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    10. You don't think it's true?

      Fat acceptance, feminism, affirmative action, slut walks. My anecdote explains them all.

      P.s I didn't make it up, I just paraphrased

      https://i.imgur.com/of0NeOX.png

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    11. 15.j, the problem is that you'e using the extreme members of those movements to make your argument. Fat acceptance when done right is about accepting you're not society's ideal of attractiveness, but not shaming or hating yourself over it. It's taken too far when it's used to "skinny shame" or fit shame.

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    12. ^^^To add to this, I say this as a fit male who fits society's ideal. I recognize that not everyone wants to put in that work, and even if we're talking about morbid obesity (fit - morbid obese is a false dichotomy anyway), shame is never the way of dealing with an issue such as this. Empathy and education is.

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  15. Honestly I would probably selectively support feminist initiatives that i think make sense (a lot of them are circlejerk victimhood bullshit). But the way feminism is being forced on society, and especially in university, makes me automatically detest the movement and favour ideological positions antithetical to it.

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    1. Indeed. It is suspicious that it has to be forced on us while we are young in Elementary school. Do they not feel like their ideas are rational and reasonable enough to gain traction in fair and open debate?

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    2. ^What gets taught in elementary school IS subject to debate. It's a state-funded education system in a more or less democratic society. Or have you not noticed things like the protests over Wynne's sex-ed curriculum?

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    3. Adding on to 16b, it's important to note that the values in the current curriculum are a product of what the people in the Ministry of Education have, in conjunction with the teaching unions, come to perceive as generally mainstream opinions. In today's society, that boils down to: "equity, tolerance, and independent free agency." So that has become (mostly) the foundation of our education system.

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    4. with j***, you lose

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    5. Yes 12b, I am well aware of the outrage over Wynne's curriculum that got shut down after 3 days last time she enacted it.

      But I'm talking about a broader context: feminism and liberalism in general are the philosophies of public schools. Probably due to the fact that nearly all the teachers are women now at the elementary level.

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  16. A girl can be as feminist as she wants just so long as she still lets me jizz on her face at the end of a date.

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