OMG: I don't understand why the environment faculty is forcing their students to take a second stats course in order to graduate. I'm certain that I'm never going to use this regression shit in my life ever again, and I'm bad enough at math as it is that if I need to gather statistics I'm gonna hire someone else to do it for me. What the fuck is the point?

Here's the truth: Post secondary education is about institutions squeezing as much money as they can out of you, not about the quality or usefulness of the education. Heck, with the economy being oversaturated with people and not enough jobs to go around, you'll be lucky if you even get a job in your field after grad.

OP here and yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Serious question, if you've taken it do you find it useful to your future at all? Because everyone I've talked to in my program finds it worthless but I don't know if that's representative of what all ENV students think.

Stats isn't math. If you're bad at stats, it doesn't mean you're bad at math. It means you are fucking lazy. How hard is it to crunch numbers? Follow the goddamn instructions and get 100%. Stats should be your easiest course, now you get two easy courses.

If stats doesn't boost your average, you're a fucking retard.

If you think you're going to require someone else to do your stats for you, please find a different profession because you are unfit to analyze data.

Well, 3 is clearly not a member of the math faculty. Upper year stat courses at least in the math department is just as hard or even harder than upper year amath/pmath/co courses.

Even if you take dumbed down stat courses, statistics is still math. I don't know what you're smoking to claim that "stat isn't math".

3c, you keep using that word, 'plebs' like you somehow have some kind of special status that gives you the right to look down on others for not having the skills you do to do the things that you're good at. Maybe you should consider removing the log from your ass and accepting that different people have different strengths and weaknesses?

...And yes, it is absolutely, definitely math. You don't have to be learning high level mathematical theory to be doing math. When a normal course for you involves reading things that other people have written, and then writing about those things, a course that makes you analyze data and crunch numbers is quite positively math! Sorry it doesn't meet your elite 'true math' standards, but maybe stop gatekeeping for something that really doesn't need a gatekeeper?

STATS is so hard Either you get it or you don't There is no middle ground and no amount of studying is going to save you from this. stats is totally different from math where even if you are bad math you can learn patterns and just half ass your exams but stats is hard as fuck

yeah dude totally unless you like, i dunno, learn like half of it, and like, just memorize the formulas without always knowing how to use them, and stuff.. yeah

Sure you may never have to actually do a regression again, but you'll likely be surrounded by statistics for the rest of your personal and professional life- being able to intuitively understand and interpret these at least a basic level is pretty damn important.

Here's the truth: Post secondary education is about institutions squeezing as much money as they can out of you, not about the quality or usefulness of the education. Heck, with the economy being oversaturated with people and not enough jobs to go around, you'll be lucky if you even get a job in your field after grad.

ReplyDeleter u talking about ENV278?

ReplyDeleteOP here and yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Serious question, if you've taken it do you find it useful to your future at all? Because everyone I've talked to in my program finds it worthless but I don't know if that's representative of what all ENV students think.

DeleteSee 6 OP, 4A EB.

DeleteStats isn't math. If you're bad at stats, it doesn't mean you're bad at math. It means you are fucking lazy. How hard is it to crunch numbers? Follow the goddamn instructions and get 100%. Stats should be your easiest course, now you get two easy courses.

ReplyDeleteIf stats doesn't boost your average, you're a fucking retard.

If you think you're going to require someone else to do your stats for you, please find a different profession because you are unfit to analyze data.

>"Stats isn't math."

DeleteUmmm... the Math Faculty's Department of Statistics and Actuarial Science strongly begs to differ. That shit most definitely IS math.

Anyway, different people have different strengths and weaknesses, no need to insult them over it.

Well, 3 is clearly not a member of the math faculty. Upper year stat courses at least in the math department is just as hard or even harder than upper year amath/pmath/co courses.

DeleteEven if you take dumbed down stat courses, statistics is still math. I don't know what you're smoking to claim that "stat isn't math".

3 here.

DeleteI graduated from the math faculty you plebs. Upper year statistical theory courses are math.

Intro stats courses in the environment faculty aren't.

3c, you keep using that word, 'plebs' like you somehow have some kind of special status that gives you the right to look down on others for not having the skills you do to do the things that you're good at. Maybe you should consider removing the log from your ass and accepting that different people have different strengths and weaknesses?

Delete...And yes, it is absolutely, definitely math. You don't have to be learning high level mathematical theory to be doing math. When a normal course for you involves reading things that other people have written, and then writing about those things, a course that makes you analyze data and crunch numbers is quite positively math! Sorry it doesn't meet your elite 'true math' standards, but maybe stop gatekeeping for something that really doesn't need a gatekeeper?

ohoho 3c, get rekt

Deletewho's the real pleb now?

STATS is so hard

ReplyDeleteEither you get it or you don't

There is no middle ground and no amount of studying is going to save you from this. stats is totally different from math where even if you are bad math you can learn patterns and just half ass your exams but stats is hard as fuck

yeah dude totally

Deleteunless you like, i dunno, learn like half of it, and like, just memorize the formulas without always knowing how to use them, and stuff.. yeah

See 4a, maybe you and I took different stats courses, because my memory of it was that it very much *wasn't* formula-based.

DeleteSTAT231 is easy lol, study harder you pleb

ReplyDeleteSure you may never have to actually do a regression again, but you'll likely be surrounded by statistics for the rest of your personal and professional life- being able to intuitively understand and interpret these at least a basic level is pretty damn important.

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