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OMG: Apparently, the conservatives want to tie in government tuition grants (osap) into your marks, so the better your marks the more you get..... :/

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  1. who actually pays to go to school?

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  2. This is awesome. Driving society forward. CPC ftw

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    1. You are a fucking idiot.

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    2. @2a do i really need to add /s to this?

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  3. So lets say I don't get enough OSAP. I have to work to survive now, making my grades suffer. Then, since my grades took a hit from not having enough money, I'm going to get LESS OSAP. So I'll have to work MORE to make enough money, meaning my grades suffer even worse, meaning I get even less money, and so forth.

    Conservatives: forcing you to fail so they can save money.

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    1. You don't get OSAP from the federal government. OP is full of it.

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    2. I agree with you 3. This can work to an extent, but not for everyone. I would think most people on OSAP are already stretched to the breaking point, otherwise they wouldn't need loans to begin with and the province gives out the bare minimum in most cases. This would just be detremental to those in need.

      Also this is assuming that marking is accurate. From personal experience I've had various situations where this isn't the norm. It could be in regards to losing marks for participation/attendance, or just having a really shitty teacher. It's a start though to get the ball rolling, but not an end point.

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  4. This is patently false. It has not been stated, it isn't part of the election, it's just false.

    1) The federal government has no control over OSAP, so a promise like this would make no sense to begin with.

    2) There WAS an advisor and candidate in the Ontario PC Party who talked about this idea publicly (he's an academic who studies higher education), but it was never adopted as party policy. But it did manage to freak some students out a year ago during the provincial election (despite the fact the article where this guy talked about it was already a year old then).

    PLEASE check your facts before you post falsehoods.

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  5. Agreed with #4, but theoretically- given two students who are in equal need of money, with limited OSAP funding available, why not reward the candidate with better grades?

    Ethics/politics aside- it's a smart economic move for the government to base loans (not just grants) on grades, given the correlation between higher grades and lower default rates.

    Just look at Social Finance, a US startup that raised 1bn yesterday. They only lend to students they select based on performance criteria, and are able to do so at a rate more competitive than anybody else because they experience lower default rates. Selective pricing using better information is a win-win for both the student and the company.

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    1. I'm okay with an academic threshold in order to get OSAP funding, but the amount you get should be tied to financial need, first and foremost.

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  6. I'm confused. As other posters have stated is this the Federal or Provincial Conservative Party? I'm interested in this idea is there a link? Post-secondary education in Canada is shit, Ontario especially, the parties should start talking about what can be done.

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  7. OSAP should be based on financial need the most. I'm in engineering and trying to just maintain 60s.... :(

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  8. lol I guess I know who I'm not voting for now.

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