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Updated on Tuesday, May 19

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OMG: I think that if UWaterloo wants to make a real difference pertaining to gender inequallity in academia, they should move their focus away from mature women already in the field. You all are right; promoting them based on their gender only is detrimental. 

Target the elementary schools. Encourage girls to do science fairs and get messy instead of focusing on being pretty and delicate. That's where gender roles really get ingrained; when you tell a six year old a fairly tale about a beautiful princess and a brave prince, when you give your boy a leggo set and your girl a pink dress and a doll. 

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  1. http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Pipeline

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    1. Oh good, somebody posted this before I could have a chance to.

      It's a reasonable sentiment OP, and I don't actually disagree with you. BUT we need to be asking ourselves why we LOSE women in those fields as they travel the road from "child's interest" to "professional career," as well. Really, there is no "one area" that needs to be targeted - it's systemic change at EVERY level that's required. We shouldn't be hearing about how a woman has succeeded in a field "in spite of it being a traditionally male-dominated industry," we should be hearing about this great researcher and their findings without ever needing to think about their gender (and not because it's a given that they're male, either).

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  2. OP your premise is faulty: "if UWaterloo wants to make a real difference".

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    1. Yes it's lipservice. Real change to resolve the whole array of issues is fought.

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  3. As a female engineer, some of the shit I've had to deal with with respect to the culture of this field would shock you. I agree its important to get young women interested in the sciences and maths but that has been a known fact for years now, and we are beginning to see the results of this now (such as the highe-than-ever enrollment stats from 2014). It's not going to matter if the campus and work environments cause poor retention. If I didn't love what I do so goddamn much I would have been gone a long time ago.

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    1. Its certainly a penis sleeve culture.

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    2. Would it shock me? Would the shit really shock me? Zzzzzzzzzz.

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  4. theyve been doing it for years actually - there are a ton of enrichment opportunities for middle school and high school students that UW hosts now - definitely more than before. dunno where all this is coming from, OP. also just take a look at the after school/weekend programs in larger municipalities like GTA, tons of learn to code kid programs, some specifically for kids. it's pretty obvious that you have to start it off at a young age, everyone knows that. it just requires time, things don't change with the snap of a finger.

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  5. I've volunteered as a judge at three science fairs for elementary and high schools so far this year and I also run charitable programming for little girls interested in STEM fields. UW has given me access to both of these opportunities, so I might be overly optimistic but I think they are trying to make a difference!

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    1. https://beingawomaninphilosophy.wordpress.com/

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