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OMG: Waterloo increased international students tuition by 9.2% !

I am an international student and when I made my decision to come here, one of the factors I considered was tuition, and it's not reasonable to expect it to rise at a such high rate. According to an article from imprint, tuition rate for international undergraduate students has increased three times faster than tuition for domestic students in recent years.
I do understand that we don't belong to Canada but we do belong to UWaterloo and I think it's unfair to treat us this way. Not all of us are super rich, and some of us might be forced to drop out if the tuition keeps increasing at such rates.

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  1. Two reasons they do it.

    1: There are restrictions to the amount of a student body that can be International and domestic that are in place. More and more international students want to go to Waterloo, so how do you think they try and deter that?

    2: Because they can. They know that a lot of international students are loaded beyond belief, and they'll pay it anyways. So why not make more money off of them?

    Your cries will be heard on deaf ears and nothing will change.

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    1. Instead of rejecting students in order to control the rate of entry we should just raise the prices to deter them.

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    2. The first reason you mentioned doesn't make sense. If they really wanted to deter international students from going to Waterloo, why would they increase tuition for current students ?

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    3. @ b
      I assume increasing tuition for just first years would be a clusterfuck.

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  2. I don't think it's the high cost that they're complaining about as much as it is the size of the unexpected rise. When they made their decision, they calculated it based on the expected costs. now the tuition has gone up by a lot more than they expected (and if they're here for another 3 or 4 years it will probably continue to do so) and so it seems like they were misled/misinformed when making the initial decision. I'm domestic and i understand the reasons for increasing international tuition (relative caps on domestic tuition, the fact that we pay in via taxes and they don't to the same extent, government funding, etc.) but I think it would be reasonable to give continuing international students some sort of tuition guarantee---that they're locked in to a max inflation rate increase. Like alberta just increased their law tuition by like 150%---the students already enrolled are locked in to their earlier rates though, because no one expected to pay 1.5 x the amount when they signed up

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  3. Hate to break it, but if we didn't have limits on international entry Waterloo (and probably everywhere else) would be 100% Chinese. UW has two options for limiting entry:

    1. Raise the bar on academic merit and apply the same process as with nationals but stricter
    2. Raise tuition

    Number 2 is clearly more advantageous to UW as it provides better income and doesn't narrow the international student body to super-geniuses which will completely outstrip local students for all the awards.

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    1. I don't think this is the reason.
      The university could easily apply tuition increases only for incoming students. If that were the case then you would be right but they specifically chose to charge current international students more. Of course, current students have nothing to do with limits on international entry (unless they are forcing current international students to leave Waterloo before graduating ... which is even worse). But they are actually just doing it to get international students' money, based on the belief that they are super rich as well as the fact that they are a minority that can't do anything if tuition continues to increase.
      The university spends so much money on new buildings among other things, and the government doesn't offer enough money to cover these costs, so they charge international students more because they can. That is the sad truth.

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    2. @3.a

      You're not making sense. The whole point of increasing tuition for international and not national students is to limit the number of international students. I doubt the university has any "belief" on the finances of international students. There's more than a billion potentials, why limit their income to be fair when they can easily reap the rewards and also satisfy locals by providing more value for less cost.

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  4. @3.b
    Can you explain why they are increasing tuition for current international students and not just for incoming international students ?

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    1. @4
      Okay that makes sense, I misread your post. I don't know why of course, but my guess is that they apply the same procedures on tuition increase as with local students, which is increases for everyone regardless of whether or not you are incoming. It's probably possible to limit it to new international students, maybe with some difficulty that the administration doesn't want to tackle. Mostly it's because they can, and it's more profitable that way. Yes it's immoral and I don't agree with it, but the fact is there are people willing to pay. The nasty argument is that we don't just want international students, we want the best and the richest ones, and we can get them too.

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  5. My guess is that there is an immediate shortfall of funds. With the TFW being cut to 10% there are massive job postings online on various career boards for UW. Now they will have to pay market value instead resulting in an urgent need of cash and they can't raise domestic tuition too much because of provincial regulations. Imo.

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  6. Wealthy as fuck people want to go to UW and gentrify the city, make them pay so much that they do not have the money to gentrify the city.

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    1. This is funny to me because I have been living in shared basement hovels for $250-300/month rent since I started going to school here 3 years ago, and my family had to move and sell property to afford my education.

      Ha. Hahaha. Heh. This is good joke.

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  7. I'm happy that they did this.

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    1. Me too. There are too many Chinese immigrants in Waterloo that don't bother assimilating into Canadian culture. And if we're encouraging such a community, then obviously more and more people want to apply from far away places. It's only fair for UW to be charging more for those students and yes I agree with the quotes made in the Imprint article - UW should be just as valued as UofT, UBC, etc.

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  8. Should just Scale it to net worth. I bet you could make the international tuition 80k a year and people would still pay it. Then just bursary out the difference so that internationals who's parents aren't party members can be subsidized by the incredibly wealthy.

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    1. “I think it’s really important that the universities are more invested in by the government,” Hamade said, “So that the universities don’t feel the need to treat international students as cash cows.”
      So proud to be a cash cow !

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  10. suck it up, you don't pay taxes here.

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