OMG UPDATE: Like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter to get updates on updates!

Updated on Monday, February 9

#20510

OMG: Paula Colaso, are you serious? You said: "Council has lots of power but doesn't know what to do with it". I'm sorry can you please take a seat. Council doesn't do shit because they do not have enough say. They are the lowest of the lowest tier. Chris is right Council does not have enough say or respect because the exec run all the meetings and council does not have any mandates or idea of what their position is. What does council do? VOTE ON FUCKING POLICIES WHICH DO NOT MATTER OR HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE ANYTIME SOON FOR 6 HOURS ON A SUNDAY WHAT THE HELL. Paula don't spew garbage.

MOD'S NOTE: Running for office, name permitted. 

8 comments

  1. We have collectively determined that Paula is not getting elected. No need to further trash her into oblivion. Let's focus on the trainwreck that is Maaz.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Paula is dumb. Just plain stupid.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Council does have power. Lots of power. They have the ability to state what the student opinion is on a topic on behalf of all students. Council includes the executive, who play a leadership role in all practical matters on council. Executive are almost always elected over against competing candidates. Council is a democratically elected body that speaks on behalf of all students. That's power.

    If you want the University to change something, but students' council opposes your opinion, then you will not be successful in seeing your opinion lead to change. The University listens to council's opinions (through the executive). This is a lot of power. You can still get some minor changes done outside of council... but if council disagrees with you then changes won't happen.

    There will be no student building unless council supports it.
    There will be no advocacy for lower tuition by Feds unless council supports it.
    There will be no GRT bus pass unless council supports it.
    There will be no LRT pass unless council supports it.
    There will be no student-run businesses on-campus unless council continues to hold to it's policies against University monopolies on campus.
    There will be no change in snow day policies unless council takes a strong stance on the subject.
    There will be no student-run Orientation Week unless council holds to its policies related to the importance of a student-run O-Week.
    There will be no reading week unless council takes a stance on it.
    There will be no service for supporting students struggling with their gender identity unless council supports such a service.
    There will be no student-run medical aid team unless council supports it.
    There will be no Welcome Week unless council supports it.

    The idea that council has no power is rubbish.

    OP... you do not demonstrating a nuanced understanding of how advocacy works and what the role of policy is in a Student Union. I would encourage you to study this further. Consider the most effective advocacy organizations and the role of their lobbyists. The lobbyists must be careful in how they negotiate.

    ReplyDelete
  4. There will be no student building unless council supports it.
    -This could be decided by referendum or board calling a referendum.
    There will be no advocacy for lower tuition by Feds unless council supports it.
    -This is decided by OUSA GA
    There will be no GRT bus pass unless council supports it.
    -Board makes the agreement with GRT
    There will be no LRT pass unless council supports it.
    -Board makes the agreement with GRT
    There will be no student-run businesses on-campus unless council continues to hold to it's policies against University monopolies on campus.
    -Board currently would still have the power to open new commercial services.
    There will be no change in snow day policies unless council takes a strong stance on the subject.
    -This could be done through Senators
    There will be no student-run Orientation Week unless council holds to its policies related to the importance of a student-run O-Week.
    -This might be under council's purview
    There will be no reading week unless council takes a stance on it.
    -Referendum is more important than Council, council has yet to take a stance on this, but it still will likely happen.
    There will be no service for supporting students struggling with their gender identity unless council supports such a service.
    -This is actually a power of council.
    There will be no student-run medical aid team unless council supports it.
    -This is actually a power of council.
    There will be no Welcome Week unless council supports it.
    -The budget for this was approved by Board this year

    The idea that council has no power is rubbish.
    -Council has a tiny bit of power, but not nearly as much as you think

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. +1 for correct information 4

      Delete
    2. 3 was probably Paula

      Delete
    3. Paula doesn't know enough to post 3.

      Delete
  5. 3, most of Council's power is little more than a formality, or hypothetical at the best of times. The actual *political* power in Feds, and the real decision making power, is vastly concentrated in the Exec and the Board (Board more now than was once the case, but still very exec-centric).

    Ultimately, there is nothing in Feds' governing documents that binds Board or the Exec to actually *care* about what Council says - or act on it - and therein lies the problem. In practice, Council has for some time been little more than a monthly student focus group for Feds - a sounding board for the exec's ideas - and that needs to change.

    ReplyDelete