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Updated on Monday, February 2

#20459

OMG: Guy responsible for not calling a snow closure, and as a result putting student safety at risk:

Dr. Ian Orchard, Vice-President Academic & Provost
provost@uwaterloo.ca
519-888-4766

Call/email him.

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    1. Buses were in accidents, sidewalks weren't cleared, and roads were declared hazardous by police. Not to mention that all of the major employers in Waterloo closed their offices for their employees safety.

      Nice trolling, but at least find an issue where you can pretend there was a reason to be open.

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    2. Ding ding here comes RL the shitpost king.

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    3. haha RL I have never seen such useless human being in my life

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    4. rl you enjoy all this online attention, don't you

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  2. Grow up. Yes there was a lot of snow and yes it made commuting a pain in the ass but stop trying to make this into some life threatening situation. The provost isn't out to get you.

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    1. So apparently the weather is so safe that people who own cars are being told to stay home (corporate employees, teachers, administrators)...

      How much is the administration paying you, 2?

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    2. I know it must be shocking to you 2a, but the world doesn't stop spinning over 10-15cm of snow.

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    3. Ya it was 30cm of snow. 2b it's obvious you live on campus and have no actual idea of what commuting is.

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    4. Anyone who doesn't have to commute should shut the fuck up.

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    5. 2, so why do you think all of the other schools closed then? For fun? No, it was to protect the safety of their students and staff.

      If roads were clear by like 8 am yesterday I would agree that a snow day wasn't warranted.... but they were so not.

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    6. Side roads were definately NOT cleared by 8am. They started side roads at 3pm. So if you can't get off your street, main streets being clear means nothing.

      Additionally, not all students commute from within the city. Many of us are outside of KW and need to travel the 401 or country roads that are much worse than city roads.

      Forcing us to come in to write a midterm or submit an assignment is the fault of the school. There should be a school wide policy for commuters in bad weather. Students shouldn't be at the mercy of a mean prof.

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    7. Hey there. I'm an employee for a private retail chain in the KW area. I'm also a part-time student. I had an early morning shift on Monday. I called my boss to double check if we were opening or not because of the storm.

      Guess what? I still had to go into work. All the stores around me were open, too. So were the nearby office buildings.
      Snow days are a weird thing that students feel entitled to for some reason, that the rest of the world doesn't get unless their municipality is under a state of emergency. Grow up - if you want to stay home, then that's your choice, but live with the consequences.

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    8. No offence 2g, but an it's expected that an unskilled minimum-wage retail employee would be treated as expendable. This comment was concerning the University, where we all pay tuition, where some students commute from out of the city and expecting them to come in to write a midterm on Monday was insane.

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    9. 2h, you are a prick. This is coming from someone who isn't even in 2g's situation. Do you seriously think that large corporations who hire thousands of minimum wage workers view them as "expendable". Are they somehow immune to lawsuits over H&S code violations? Not only are you an ass but you clearly don't understand how the world works.

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    10. ^ Look at Target...

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    11. Of course they think of them as expendable. That's how the world works... I'm pretty sure that's why most of us are here trying to get an education.

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    12. Target fired their employees because the Canadian division no longer exists. If on the other hand Target used unsafe practices and employees died you can bet your ass there would be trouble for the company. Even the most draconian minimum-wage employers make damn sure they are not liable for any sort of harm coming to their employees. In Canada at least. Mistreated does not equal expendable.

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    13. It finally hit home. The snow... Waterloo had been a target...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyZcwnO794k

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  3. It's Canada, it snows, getting stuck or delayed in snow is not a safety issue, it wasn't 50cm of snow and -30c, yes there were accidents but do towns and cities in northern Ontario shut down every time they get snow? I think UW is setting a good example. All our bus drivers, emergency services people, store employees at the malls all came in to work. This is Canada, it snows and there will be days when it's not fun but then should we not shut down when there is heavy rain, high heat, or thunder and lightning storms in the forecast? We all know what happened this fall in a lightning storm on campus and to me that's more of a hazard than walking through 30cm of snow.

    Aren't we supposed to enjoy winter, embrace winter, have fun?

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    1. Actually, one of my co-workers was struck and injured (while he was on foot) by a car that slid yesterday because our boss said that if we didn't come in, we'd get a write-up. I suppose I should tell him to enjoy and embrace winter eh, you douche?

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    2. Saying stupid shit like "it's Canada" doesn't cancel out the risk that comes with dangerous weather. Living somewhere where you're used to the climate doesn't mean it's ok to throw caution to the wind in a situation where you should be careful. Thinking like yours is incredibly idiotic, 3.

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    3. You mean where UW held a fire drill at V1 during an electrical storm there?

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    4. 3c, that was an act of god, as would any harm to students have been from yesterday's inclement weather.

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  4. 3...you're a fucking moron. Rain, heat or thunder storms do not make it impossible to get to work. Some of use live in suburbs where we could not safely exit our street. Plain and simple. Midterms are much more important to us than they are to the school and we would like a fair chance to write them

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  5. Just so people know, taking the bus for 7 stops or walking 3 blocks is not commuting to campus.

    Before people get picky over the numbers, I pulled them out of my ass to make a point.

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    1. There are a lot of students who actually come from outside of KW. The University should be considering their safety as well.

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    2. So they should close down the entire school for the few that commute outside of KW? I know several people that travelled from outside KW and they were perfectly fine making it in on time. They just made plans to give lots of extra time. For the few that could actually not make it in/legit life was on the line, they can petition or make special arrangements for missed tests. I was really pissed when I hear we weren't getting a snow day but it was really just because I didn't want to go in but looking back now it was the right call.

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    3. 5b, no. Many, many workers it the city could not get out of their driveways or their neighborhoods, which are plowed only after the main streets. This only happened later in the afternoon. Leaving early was not helpful since a lot of snow fell overnight. High winds blowing snow made this extra hazardous as visibility got reduced.

      Big wrong call by UW. Placed student and worker safety too low a priority, again.

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    4. Many people that live in the city made it on time when they gave themselves an extra hour in the morning. The only people that couldn't get out of their driveways were either lazy, didn't give enough time or are handicap (which is a legit reason).

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    5. There were a lot of cars on the side of the road on Monday morning. I don't think getting in on time was just about being lazy and not clearing your driveway, it was also actually pretty hazardous.

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  6. I woke up 90min early to help clear my roomates car/driveway and then we shoveled our way up the non-plowed street. Major roads were poor but passable. My other roomate walked on the sidewalks in 2ft of snow and said with proper boots/pants he was fine, took long but he made it With the extra caution of everyone else around you as a pedestrian and driver, there wasn't that much risk yesterday. Had the stormed continued it would have made sense to close.

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  7. 3, Ontarioweather and other sites posted strict weather advisories citing whiteout conditions from blowing snow. Nonessential driving was advised against.

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    1. Driving to school/work is essential.

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    2. 7a, not if it was cancelled. But few jobs are essential to do every day without exception, requiring scheduled workers to drive to work regardless of hazards. One way to tell these is by seeing what services need to be provided round the clock including weekends.

      Emergency rooms, police, fire fighters. Jobs where they don't get spring break.

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  8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyZcwnO794k
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