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#20288

OMG: AHS, ENV, Math, SCI, and Eng, all get new buildings. Arts? No building for you!

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  1. Because you don't need fucking labs or any sort of technical equipment. You can host lectures in any building. Just be logical please. Also funding for new buildings comes from other places I think.

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    1. +1 ugh i agree. Art students, please stop complaining.

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  2. You got a whole fucking other campus in Stratford. Stop complaining.

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    1. Which is only available to a few students in the GBDA program.

      Bad argument.

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    2. E6 is only for specific programs within Engineering. Get over yourself.

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    3. At least E6 is on campus...... Stratford is in...Stratford...

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  3. Pretty sure they're planning on renovating the open patio area by Hagey Hall into a new building space in the near future.

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  4. This ^ and arts got the other Hagen hall addition not that long ago.

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    1. * AFM got the addition, it's not really for the rest of the Arts faculty.

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  5. Are you kidding? Arts students - especially fine arts students - use equipment too. Try handling a massive printing press that's broken in a room full of other students waiting to use it. Plus ECH is ugly as fuck.

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    1. Agreed. ECH needs a reno. Arts is the biggest program and gets the least amount of funding. The fine arts program could be great if they had the technology and equipment (the resources) to make it modern and spectacular.

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    2. Because that equates to needing fume hoods, chemical storage, microscopes, air tracks, centrifuges, and an array of odds and ends....

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    3. to 5.b. While I can tell you're disagreeing with me, I want to say exactly to your response. It does equate in that it as much as a science student needs that equipment, a fine arts student needs certain equipment too. I agree it costs less, but it is still very expensive. Cost may be the difference, but the need is the same. And a university should be meeting the needs of its students who pay tuition to get the best education possible at a reputable school.

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  6. This is such a dumb post, whining about not getting a new building isn't going to get you a new building. If you don't like the arts buildings then maybe you should have considered another university. If all your concerned with is the buildings you're learning in then maybe people should re-consider why they're in university.
    -An arts student

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    1. Nobody pays 4000 dollars in student loans just to fail all their courses.
      -ur future arts student

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    2. You don't choose your university based on the buildings.

      Anyways, he/she is just saying that every program is getting a new building except arts. However, arts did get the hagey extension. But the fine arts students should definitely have ech renovated.

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    3. What does nice buildings mean?

      Arts is getting a normal building. Arts can carry my purse. Fine arts attracts people.

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  7. Apologies, but have you been in MC? It's like a glorified prison.

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    1. Nah, it is a prison

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    2. and we aren't allowed out for a very, very long time :(

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  8. As an arts student, I don't really have an issue with not getting any new buildings. I agree, we can host lectures pretty much anywhere, which is more than fine with me.

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  9. To be fair, Math, AHS and Env each had two buildings and expanded to three. Arts already has HH + accounting wing, PAS, AL, ML, ECH, the DP, etc.

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    1. Arts does not have "HH". Arts has "H" and etc.

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  10. Can't hear you over here from E5, E6, E7 and QNC.

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  11. Art's HH is pretty new.
    If any faculty needs new building, it's Math. Engineering and Science each have a huge cluster of buildings while we only have 3, one of them (DC) is shared with engineers, and only MC have proper classrooms. Math classes are spread all around campus and I have to run from OPT to DWE in less than 10 minutes because we are a faculty with lots of students and not enough building.

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    1. uhh what about M3?

      that building is pretty new, flashy and fancy imo

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    2. M3 only has one big classroom. All other classrooms are pretty small.

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    3. Rooms in M3 are mainly used as offices and grad student classrooms except the large lecture hall

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  12. ...Who gives a shit?

    Regardless of the fact that all faculties have classes in just about EVERY building on campus, does it really matter if Arts doesn't get a new building while you are here? Is there an invisible force-field keeping you from working inside other buildings on campus?

    The last thing we need the narcissists of this campus to swing around is building envy.

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    1. Actually, other faculties do have "exclusive" areas.

      Why do you think non engineering/arts students cannot access many computer labs on campus?

      Keep believing that we can go to "any building".

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  13. Public service announcement:

    New buildings are funded by donations (not tuition) and fundraising which is initiated by each faculty's administration. Want to know why Eng has so many new buildings? Because the dean of engineering works her ass off to shmooze alum and investors and get money donated to her projects. If you are mad that your faculty isn't growing or spending money the right way, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! There's no reason why others shouldn't have nice things just because your faculty is deadbeat.

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    1. She's not the only one who works her ass off, people just don't donate to arts, even with the effort.
      People who donate:
      People who make a lot of money right out of school (engineers)
      People who are happy with what the school did for them (definitely not arts students)

      So it's kind of a cycle. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying, it's harder for arts to acquire funding then it is for engineering.

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    2. I call bullshit on your funding theory. Yes, donations make up a portion of buildings' funding, but some DOES come from the University fund (ie. tuition and government money), as well as student fees designated for the building (E7, Health Services, TC for example) and government grants for specific projects (both E7 and STC are looking to get some government money).

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    3. Student fees only pay for buildings when students themselves explicitly approve it first through a referendum.

      Government grants pay for most of the academic buildings on campus - but they do only cover academic buildings, as a general rule.

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    4. Not that there aren't exceptions. Look at QNC - that's worth about $200 million, and nearly $150 million of that came from Mike and Ophelia Lazaridis.

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  14. Whoever thinks HH is great because it's renovated is wrong. Lets just chat for a second.
    Ever had a 3 hour lecture in a theatre? No plugs, forced to sit directly beside others, computer on your lap? Lets talk lecture spots. Arts faculty shouldn't have to overflow to other faculties. Like hello...

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    1. HH has been extended.... taht's what we are all talkign about. Arts should get some reno done, but it does depend on donations. But the new HH is very nice and spacious with tons of plugs.

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    2. H has been extended. What do u think the fuckign problem is? Do u think the students would even notice the renovations?

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    3. I really just want to point out that you're complaining about being "forced to sit directly beside others". Like, seriously? Do you want classrooms with double to capacity of the classes put there just so no one has to sit next to someone else? Complaining about something like that makes you sound like a stuck-up prick

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    4. 14c, hear hear. As long as everyone gets a seat there's no problem with lecture hall size. It's only a problem if you a) can't accommodate persons with disabilities, or b) have people sitting in aisles/steps, or standing.

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    5. I don't think people are saying HH is great because it has been renovated, they are saying that the renovated parts are great.

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    6. This is 14 a. Thank you 14 e. That's exactly my point. The extended parts do look great. You have so much space between students during lectures. Comfort and space during lectures are rare luxuries.

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  15. I'm an Arts student and pretty much all of my classes are either in DWE or RCH. They're not even in "Arts" buildings...I do agree, the Arts buildings suck but who really cares when our classes are tossed all over campus???

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    1. Oh forgot to mention...there's definitely a lack of plugs in DWE and RCH. But yah sucks to suck for us Arts people but, at least you have the satisfaction of knowing the other faculties are also struggling in those buildings.

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    2. In Tron. All of our 2B lectures were in Arts Lecture Hall. I think it's dependant on class size and not faculty.

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  16. Place needs more stripper poles... and strippers.

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  17. ENV didn't get a new building, we got a tumor on our old building.

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    1. And most the space was given to the special snowflake Planning students, rather than the larger and higher profile departments.

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    2. Exactly, It would have been much better to cut that room on the second floor that is always empty in two, give Geomatics their own lab, and Planning the other half. Then the other labs would be less busy for everyone else, and every group would have their own space. Eco-lab for the eco people, KI people have their always empty room on top of ev2/maybe in ev3, I don't actually know what that space is technically in. Geography would have the other labs since they are a large program. Aviation has the airport and could join geomatics since they have most of the same courses, and both are smaller programs. I have never heard if EB needs any labs, but I have never seen them in a lab unless they were taking a GIS course. Same with InDev.

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  18. Let's be honest, most of the shit the school funds is for Graduate programs and Research areas for staff. Undergrads don't mean shit to the school, just a pay check.

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    1. That bit about grad programs is false. I know grad students (in several faculties) and they are all just as screwed over as we undergrads are.

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  19. i like buttercake

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