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Updated on Sunday, December 14

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OMG: Got a proof of enrolment form today and had to pay 10 bucks for it... My question is, why do I have to pay for a form that proves that I am enrolled in a university where I already pay thousands of dollars in tuition??? So basically I'm paying Waterloo for a form to say that I have paid Waterloo...absolutely ridiculous. The woman in the registrar's office literally just typed it up in front of me, and they're telling me that's worth $10?! Unbelievable.

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  1. Because they're whiny lazy bureaucratic fuckheads who need to do things as expensively and inefficiently as possible.

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  2. Yeah, and to think that proof of enrolment forms are free at other Canadian universities (i.e., McMaster).

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  3. The current theory held by the Registrar's Office regarding this fee is the following:

    ->It's a disincentive, which will prevent the busiest office on campus from getting clogged up and removed from more important duties (like processing override forms, new admits, course scheduling, transfer credits, etc.) by unnecessary paperwork requests.

    -> Time is a precious resource in the RO, and the $10 fee is a service charge for taking up some of that time with an individual matter.

    -> Official letterhead is expensive, and the RO doesn't receive much of a budget. The fee helps recoup costs.

    Do I agree with this theory? No, not really. I understand why there's a charge for official transcripts and certain other forms... but proof of enrolment should be free.

    You don't like it? Contact the Feds President, or your student Senator, and have them lobby the Registrar to change things.

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  4. Depending on what it's for, you can just print out a class schedule from quest as proof of enrolment. I've done that before instead of paying for the official one.

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  5. I agree its annoying but its an extra services they are providing. If the people you need the letter for won't accept unofficial stuff that's your problem. Also students voted against having all transcripts and letters included into a small fee (few dollars). Many schools charge and the schools you dont up front will have it included in other fees.

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  6. Please don't say that this is an "extra service", as if it is some big ordeal to plug in a name into a template and print a sheet of paper. The whole process literally takes 3 minutes. You are paying for a receipt and that's just not right.

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    1. True. This isn't the same as putting in a request for official paperwork that actually diverts time and resources to put together.

      TBH, you should be able to print a proof of enrolment off of your quest account, rather than going into the RO for it.

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  7. I think you're also paying for the letterhead which is actually quite expensive. Then there are 3-4 staff members who need to be paid. I also got mine mailed across the country at no extra charge too. $5 would be more appropriate. I've heard the RO and the GSO are on really tight budgets

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    1. Ridiculously tight budgets. With no additional money to spare for them.

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  8. 7 and 7a, Something is wrong it's not just at the university when there is no money for certain operating costs anywhere these days yet millions for new buildings and some times millions for CEO pay, I just don't get why the use of existing funds can't be leveled out a bit so we can have more staff, more services covered and still have a new building here and they but perhaps less or maybe we do without new buildings for a few years and just live with it and make better use of existing infrastructure.

    I am sure there is a reason why they can't do it that way, I just don't know.

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    1. Hey 8,

      What you're saying makes sense! As far as reasons go, one of the biggest ones (right up front) is salary. University staff are all currently covered by an agreement that GUARANTEES them a salary increase of 3% per year. Professors are covered by a similar agreement - and a much larger salary.

      Overall, about 85-88% of your tuition dollars goes straight into paying salaries and benefits. Of what's left, most of it goes towards class-related materials/equipment/improvements, and 5% gets set aside as financial aid money for students in financial need. After that, there isn't really anything left. Buildings get covered through a mix of alumni donations and government grants, with little to no capital actually contributed by the university itself.

      Could the use of existing funds be more efficient? Quite possibly. You might enjoy a chat with the Feds VP Education about this topic.

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    2. Hey 8,

      What you're saying makes sense! As far as reasons go, one of the biggest ones (right up front) is salary. University staff are all currently covered by an agreement that GUARANTEES them a salary increase of 3% per year. Professors are covered by a similar agreement - and a much larger salary.

      Overall, about 85-88% of your tuition dollars goes straight into paying salaries and benefits. Of what's left, most of it goes towards class-related materials/equipment/improvements, and 5% gets set aside as financial aid money for students in financial need. After that, there isn't really anything left. Buildings get covered through a mix of alumni donations and government grants, with little to no capital actually contributed by the university itself.

      Could the use of existing funds be more efficient? Quite possibly. You might enjoy a chat with the Feds VP Education about this topic.

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    3. hey 9,

      What i'm saying never makes sense! Be up front dont mind the fact that the girl might bitch slap u if u have too much money! This isnt laurier, nobody gets laid

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  9. If you can afford $5000 tuition, you shouldn't complain about $10.

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    1. The meaning of $10 can mean a whole house

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    2. No, 9, that is PRECISELY why we complain about ten dollars.

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    3. 9b +1

      With the amounts we *already* pay in tuition, it's the university who shouldn't be making us shell out $10 for someone to write on a form.

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    4. 9c, look at how tuition is broken down. That money already isn't enough to pay for everything on this campus.

      Fun fact: domestic students already only pay about half their total tuition cost (even without OSAP). The remaining half is put up by the provincial government after the class registration deadline. That's why tuition is double the cost for international students - the government doesn't contribute anything for it (in fact, they charge the university an extra $700 per international student, which the university in turn absorbs through int'l tuition fees).

      5% of your tuition is automatically set aside (by law) for financial aid (the aid money that SAFA hands out every term comes from this). About 85-88% goes to paying the profs and staff on campus.

      What's left can cover an extremely limited band of things, but primarily goes to the Faculties where it is used to cover course materials and equipment.

      A $2-$3 non-refundable student ancillary fee could easily cover the cost of all "extra" paperwork from the Registrar's Office... but students would have to approve that in a referendum first. Until that happens, we're stuck on a user fee model.

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    5. ^That's cool you broke everything down, but the issue here is not the money, it's the principle of paying for a receipt essentially. How would you feel if you bought a $5000 dollar computer/whatever, and they charged you for the receipt on top of the original cost. And even looking at it from a purely financial perspective, there's absolutely no way a sheet of paper, a couple minutes of a staff's time, is worth $10. In fact, I bet the university is overjoyed when people come in for these forms, easiest money they'll ever make.

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    6. I know a way to find $10 easy. Stop buying those damn pack of cigarettes or weed. Or, how about not buying a 6-pack? Students are so whiney

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