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Updated on Wednesday, November 19

#20138

OMG: Congratulations to Matt Taylor for both Proofs by Demonstration. First, landing a probe on a comet, proof that it can be done. Second, proving that what a male scientist wears is more important than what he discovers.

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  1. Hooray, now we can have the absolute shit storm of a conversation that will inevitably come from this...

    Seriously OP, this is basically trolling. You know nothing positive will come from this thread.

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    1. Although I would be pleasantly surprised if we would all not give into the urge to waste time arguing over the internet on this subject.

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    2. Yeah, his shirt is sexist because he is a man. Simple as that. And anything anybody says in his defence is just hateful vitriol.

      Mens issues dont exist, so lets immediately denounce this post and deem any discussion from it as useless.

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    3. I don't know about you, but I come here for drama and not pleasant conversations.

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    4. I don't know anyone who comes here for pleasant conversations except some random people in ask.

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  2. I liked his shirt.

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  3. That guy is a fucking pig. We've just lost a generation of female scientists because of his sexism.

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    1. Please have more respect for female scientists. They are an intelligent, hard-working, and dedicated bunch who don't give two shits about what one guy wore once for an important event.

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    2. 3.a has got it. Women aren't fragile, stop playing the victim card.

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  4. The shirt was inappropriate. Teachers could not show the launch in schools because of the man's attire. He then removed the shirt and apologized. Not sure what the problem is here, things seem to be working as intended.

    I mean, if you have the brains of a rocket scientist, surely that means you have the brains to dress appropriately on national television... criticism really doesn't seem unreasonable here, and it's indicative of a larger pattern.

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    1. If you have the brains of a rocket scientist you wear whatever the fuck you want whenever you want.

      Anybody hating on him just wants to take him down a couple notches because they don't have any accomplishments of their own.

      You can walk down the street and find sluttier clothing than what was on his shirt. People need to stop attention whoring.

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    2. http://womeninastronomy.blogspot.ca/2014/11/its-not-about-that-damn-shirt.html

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    3. 4b, I quite like that post, it puts things in perspective rather nicely!

      That said, I don't agree with *every* thing it says. What's wrong with being asked out by a senior colleague/advisor? But maybe I'm only asking because I don't think there's anything wrong with workplace romances....

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    4. "It's "not a big deal" when someone tells you he came to your talk because you're attractive.
      It's "not a big deal" when a coworker comments on your appearance."

      Wow I bet those guys weren't even hot, what utterly creepy rapey misogynists. Should be jailed for life.

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    5. We could switch the genders in every bullet point and they would still be valid, though nobody will care and everybody will still bash the shirt. Sexism exists... unless you are a man then shut the fuck up about your problems you creepy misogynist.

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    6. > What's wrong with being asked out by a senior colleague/advisor?

      Power imbalance. Can't fully consent to a relationship because you may jeopardize your career by saying no thanks to the wonders of retaliation. And yes, that happens. Even if the relationship was good for a while, it can sour. Also, conflict of interest issues as a superior managing multiple individuals.

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  5. Just commenting so people have more facts, what I know so far is:
    - the shirt was a hand made gift from a friend, a female artist, for his birthday
    - the shirt was special to him, because of my previous point
    - the day was special to him, because of the obvious
    - he wanted to wear his special shirt on his special day
    - Ultra-feminists ruined his special day

    My opinion:
    - I like the shirt
    - I would never have worn it on that day because he knew he was going to be on TV
    - It was a bad decision to wear it
    - People are overreacting
    - People overreacting caused him to cry on his special day

    STOP HATING ON HIM FOR WEARING THAT SHIRT. HE KNOWS HE MESSED UP, JUST DROP IT ALREADY!!!

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    1. I completely agree with you. I am a woman and think it's ridiculous to find that shirt "objectifying women" etc etc etc. It's just a shirt. It was an inappropriate shirt to wear because the women are scantily clad, and he should look professional. The shirt itself is not inappropriate or insulting to women, simply because the women are scantily clad.

      If I wore a shirt of scenes from Magic Mike or something, would it be inapropriate to wear on television? Yes. Simply for the hell of it around school or something? No. I appreciate a good-looking male body and it's a fun shirt. So what?

      I am a woman, and I have hated every feminist I have ever met or heard of. Calm yo titties!

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    2. I just want to share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnJxqRLg9x0

      I am a feminist because I support equal rights and opportunities for women - and aside from your last statement 5a, I completely agree.

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    3. Fun fact: There were no "ultra-feminists" who were calling for this guy to be lynched. Some people pointed out that it was sort not appropriate to wear on international television. He issued an apology, and that was the end.

      It's MRAs and Redditor neckbeards who are the ones blowing things out of proportion.

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    4. Yup, everything is the man's fault.

      Women feminists make this guy cry on tv, and somehow its the mans fault.

      Are you retarded?

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  6. While I do agree that it is ridiculous how much focus their has been on his shirt versus his great accomplishment. However, as a female I cant say that I feel all that bad for him as this is the type of reaction that is typically afforded to women, particularly those in politics. God knows the ridiculous amount of time was spent during Hilary Clinton's presidential campaign focused on all of her pantsuits. Aside from that, notable women in the media, politicians, CEOs and such are frequently crticized on their outfits as too short, frumpy etc.
    So while I agree we should not focus on his shirt, the reaction against his treatment does carry an air of sexism becuase I doubt most of these people would react similarly to the same treatment of highly respected women on their choice of attire.

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    1. You don't fucking get it, you don't see the real problem.

      What is the constant in both of these? It is ALWAYS WOMEN doing the criticizing. WOMEN have to solve these problems because WOMEN create them. Don't drag us dudes into this.

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    2. loool as if the dudes on Fox News never ever mentioned Hilary's appearance/attire during the campaign. Get outta here. Everyone criticizes everyone else, no one is immune to this.

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  7. This guy was part of an effort that took over ten years and 6.4 billion km of travelling distance. They landed equipment on a comet with dimensions of 4.1 x 4.3 km at the speed of about 55,000 kph. And they chide him on his choice of clothing? Half these people complaining can't even parallel park on King Street. Some people need a hobby.

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    1. *km/h - my bad

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    2. 1. No one is denying how awesome the mission was. But cool actions in one area don't negate poor decisions in another. I can simultaneously cheer and critique him.

      2. Holy ad hominem, Batman! People can't parallel park on King; that must surely discredit their views on sexism!

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    3. What it seems like is happening is that people need something to complain about and bring others down. Because these people couldn't understand that this feat was the first of it's kind they must pick something irrelevant to the situation to complain about. It's like a grammar nazi attacking someone for having poor punctuation while ignoring what the person is trying to say. Personally, if you don't like his shirt then don't look at it. I question whether this would have been such a big deal had a woman been presenting in an highly suggestive outfit. Why is it that men are being told what not to wear while some women bristle when men do the same to women?

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    4. 7c) What!? It 100% would have been a big deal if a woman wore a highly suggested outfit. You really can't imagine that there would be backlash in that situation too? (And counter-backlash too of course, but the same is happening here with all the men 'bristling').

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  8. If a girl wore a shirt with He-Man plastered all over it... we wouldn't have even heard if it.

    Or, if we did, we would have heard how empowering she is to young women because she can choose what she wears.

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    1. EXACTLY. The while incident can be summarized in two points:
      - those feminists complaining are retarded
      - he's a pussy for taking their shit and crying

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