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Updated on Saturday, November 15

#20110

OMG: Fun fact:

There are 7 "tier 1" sports at Waterloo.
Over the last 5 years, there have been as many seasons where a team has literally lost every single game as seasons where a team has gone at least .500 (i.e. at least as many wins as losses).

(Only Men's hockey and volleyball fyi have had a winning season).

This is why people think our sports suck...the golf team wins OUAs basically paying their own way and no one hears about it, but we keep putting hundreds of thousands of dollars into paying for and promoting teams that are garbage year after year.

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  1. So what is your suggestion then?

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    1. OP wants to get rid of football

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  2. OP can't play sports so they think nobody else should.

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  3. sports is not all about winning OP!!

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  4. ye...i'm also on a varsity team that gets very little funding and we basically have to pay for everything ourselves but we always get placed in OUA finals every year. during practice, the other teams always barge in early to try to kick us out and never clean up their stuff before we have practice. just because they're in a tier 1 sport, doesn't mean their better. I agree that the school spends too much funding on teams that do terrible and basically never win a title. life is unfair

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    1. "school spends too much funding on teams..." Fuck no, unfortunately. Students pay for nearly the entire athletics budget through the ssf.

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    2. Students don't have control of that fee though. They provide input but the university doesn't have to listen.

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    3. 4c, that's only *sort of* true.

      While the Provost has the authority to determine the increase on his own (within the parameters set by the provincial government), in practice he acts solely on the decision of the Student Services Advisory Committee. That committee is mostly students - the Feds President & 3 Undergrads (typically the 3 Feds Vice Presidents), the GSA President and 1 Grad student (typically a GSA VP).

      So yes, students do determine the fee increase.

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    4. I have to agree with OP. I play a sport that gets so little funding that we aren't able to go to most of the competitions that are run each season and we must pay for our own uniforms. We have won and come runner up in CIS championships over the last few years and get no recognition for this. Yet the football team wins nothing and gets free clothes like sweatpants and hoodies for the ~50 guys. What's the point?

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    5. @4d, ability to increase the fee isn't the same as controlling the fee, ie. directing where funding goes. I don't think we need to spend more, we need to spend smarter.

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    6. 4f, that bit is overseen in the University's budget. We have 3 students (2 undergrad, 1 grad) who sit as voting members on the Senate Finance Committee (who creates the budget), about a dozen students (9 undergraduate) on the University Senate (who gives first approval to the budget), and 5 students (3 undergraduate, 2 graduate) who sit on the Board of Governors (who gives final approval to the budget).

      But that just allots money on a broad scale. Determining how that money gets sent on a department-by-department basis is something determined by directors/managers, not committees. Not that it's without oversight - if the managers can't justify their budgets, their funds will be summarily reduced.

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  5. Agree 100%. The funding and promotion structure needs to change. Football keeps complaining that they don't have as much money as other teams to get new talent which totally shits on the current players. Meanwhile they get a ton of benefits and physio for free using the money that could fully fund every other sport.

    Whether or not the money shifts (which I don't think it will), the attention should be directed to other stuff that we actually do well in. Football is traditional but not something 80% of our student body gives two shits about. They can keep losing behind the scenes just as well.

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    1. To be fair, all varsity athletes get free physio when they are in season.

      I'm not trying to argue against you or say your point isn't valid but just saying so you know the facts.

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  6. To bad golf actually gets funding and really nice equipment compared to other varsity sports that get nothing and actually have to pay for everything their team does and gets

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  7. Why are we even funding our football team anymore
    Absolute fucking trash and waste of money

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