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Updated on Wednesday, November 12

#20095

OMG: To the people who ignored the moment of silence: You couldn't take a minute out of your day to stop what you were doing and pay respect to those who have been affected by war?

34 comments

  1. What does it change? And why do we continue to glorify wars and soldiers?

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    1. Who said anything about glorifying wars??

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    2. Oh fuck you, 1. Show a little respect for those who died - honourably and senselessly - to make our country the great place it is to live today.

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    3. On every side, most soldiers died because they were conscripted or they didn't knew any better than to join the army. They didn't die for "freedom and democracy and peace" or to "make our country a great place", that's just bullshit patriotic rhetoric. It's a sad thing that those people died and it's a sad thing that wars are still being fought.

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    4. I bet you wore a white poppy you disrespecful fuckstick

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    5. @ 1c +1
      @1d the white poppy is a symbol of peace and wanting no more war...so how is that disrespectful? You think it's fine for people to die in wars?

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    6. Wearing a white poppy instead of a red one is disrespectful. It makes you seem like you care less about those who died in the war. There is absolutely no issue in wearing both a red and a white poppy.

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    7. @ 1f No, it makes it seem you think it's sad people died in war. Because it is. People shouldn't die in war. It's stating you disagree with war.

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    8. The white poppy pulls attention away from the soldiers, and puts it more on war itself. I have nothing against the white poppy, just don't replace the red one with it.

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    9. Shit like this and 9 is why Remembrance Day is so important. Our generation is completely out of touch with history and values expressing their self perceived intellectual and moral enlightenment over paying their respect to those who gave so much. They think it's some genius statement to say that war is bad, well no shit that's the point. Just shut the fuck up and remember.

      Lest we forget.

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    10. The white poppy is a strawman. If you believe that the red poppy glorifies war, you are wholly mistaken. The red poppy is a symbol of peace. We remember those who died so that no more will have to. Unfortunately, governments don't always take this message seriously.

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  2. No sense in getting angry about it. Some of them (most of them) just forget. And that's okay. I mean, all those soldiers died so that they could do exactly that - go about their lives as normal, with all their basic rights and freedoms accounted for.

    I think about 90% of people who don't observe the moment of silence, would if you reminded them. Of the 10% remaining, more than half of that would feel bad that they couldn't, but would just be *too* busy to stop.

    ...I have no sympathy for the rest though. Disrespectful. Lest We Forget.

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    1. I'm the rest and I don't give a shit you have no sympathy for me.

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    2. I too can make up random statistics about 68% of the time

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    3. Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that.

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  3. I forgot but it wasn't intentional.

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  4. Some people pay their respects on their own time, not at the moment that society has deemed it socially acceptable to. Tell me: which one is more genuine?

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    1. 'Socially acceptable' is the wrong word there IMO. But your point is valid.

      Don't get me wrong - you shouldn't disturb or bother people who are observing their moment of silence. And there is something powerful about collective reflection - Remembrance Day services. But if you don't have the time for that, paying your respects on your own time, in a way that has meaning to you, is perfectly fine also.

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  5. Oh fuck RIGHT off. I'll pay my respects and have my remembrance the way I want to, not the way YOU want me to.

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  6. I was at the War Memorial in Ottawa for Remembrance Day, but I could easily see myself forgetting it. You are in the middle of a busy week day and you don't even know the date because you are so absorbed in other things, and you just don't notice. At my last co-op job in the fall I know I didn't do anything, just kept on working. I didn't even know it was the 11th or else I would have.

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  7. PlantOps started up a truck and drove off during the moment of silence... and they didn't forget because where I was you could hear the bagpipes which reminded me of the moment of silence!

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  8. I disagree with the whole Remembrance Day because it's to remember the people that died in war. To thank them for their loss. I'm not okay with this, because they shouldn't have died that way. They did not need to die in war. Especially not Canadians. Canadians were pulled into the wars and didn't need to be there. Shouldn't have been there in my opinion.

    I'm all for remembering people who have died, because of course it's sad since they had family and friends who loved them. But remembering them solely in relation to their "contribution" to the war and our country? I'm sorry, I just really never saw the danger Canada was in during these wars, so I think our involvement was wrong and a was of lives.

    So I don't give a crap about remembrance day. If you have a family member that died in those wars, or have some personal reason to acknowledge a death during the wars, great, but remember them for THEM, not their contribution to a war.

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    1. Remembrance Day isn't just about remembering those who died, like my Grandfather, its about the end of war, and the start of peace. WWI ended on Nov. 11th, which was when peace was supposed to begin. Obviously war has not ended, and peace has not started, but we can still hope, and remember those who were forced to fight, kill other humans who were forced to fight, and even die. We don't have Remembrance Day because war is great, we have it because war is horrible. Comments like yours make you seem like an uneducated, disrespectful, over-entitled child.

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    2. Agree with 9a, come on 9 - grow up

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    3. 9a here, thanks 9b and 10.

      Noticed I made a typo, it was my Great Grandfather, not my Grandfather

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  9. 9.a Thank-you, that was very well put.

    9. Well its good that they decided that there are somethings worth fighting for other than national borders. You know, like the freedom of an entire continent, and the right to live of Jewish people, the handicapped, gypsies, homosexuals, and literally anyone a fascist dictator decided they didn't like.

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  10. I can't think of something that I support less than armies and wars. The Canadian Armed Forces are neither deserving of my attention nor anything approaching respect.

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    1. says the entitled western child

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    2. You say that, 11, never having had your entire people threatened with occupation and holocaust by a mad dictator. You've never had to worry that your rights will change from day-to-day, that everything good in your life may simply be taken from you at a moment's notice, in a society where corrupt secret police may shoot you or your loved ones for no good reason at all, without any warning.

      ...Why is it you've never experienced that. Oh - because of the Canadian Armed Forces. And - more to the point - because of those who died in their service.

      You don't have to choose a life of public service for yourself, but don't be so disrespectful of those who willingly put themselves in harm's way so that the rest of us don't have to.

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    3. I support armies, but not wars. I support the troops, but not the wars they are in. I don't think that countries should have to be fighting on foreign soil, but I see the need for it when they are protecting innocent lives.

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  11. Note OP never said anything about solely remembering soldiers or glorifying war. They simply said "those who have been affected by war". I don't believe that we are glorifying war when remembering (at least not purposefully). We aren't thinking "Gee, WWII was a great time, can't wait to start another war!" Or "Hey remember WWI? Those were the days!" And it isn't like 9 put it where we are just remembering soldiers who's lives have been taken. When I'm reminded of WWII my mind immediately goes to the victims of the Holocaust and the torment and persecution those people went through for being "different". All these people attacking others for observing rememberance day is simply ridiculous. You don't have to observe remembrance day, or share other peoples opinions on it, to be respectful of others rememberance.

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    1. Well-said. This ridiculous debate crops up at this time every year on OMGUW, and I'm continuously shocked by some people's lack of understanding of the actual meaning - or the sombre solemnity - of remembrance day.

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