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Updated on Saturday, October 18

#19963

OMG: So nobody comes out to the Fall Reading Days referendum to form the Yes and No committees? Seriously?!

...That's just pathetic. This is one of the most important issues students have voted on in years, you'd think people would be more engaged.

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  1. The publicity of this event was poor at best. I read about it briefly on a frosh Facebook group. Once. That's just pathethic. It should have been heavily advertised or at least pushed out there more by Feds. I don't think the person in charge of this is doing a very good job and I find it offense that the Feds President makes it appear that it's the students fault, not those in charge of shotty advertising.

    http://www.uwimprint.ca/article/4570-fall-reading-week-referendum-off-to

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    1. Ahhhh so it WAS the result of poor advertising! Go figure.

      Feds really doesn't know how to reach out to interested student groups when it matters.

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    2. as the imprint article said, the elections committee was responsible for advertising this.

      it said that the elections officer is not on campus for this term? maybe FEDS SHOULD GET A NEW ELECTIONS OFFICER SO THAT THEY STOP SUCKING AT WHAT THEY DO

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    3. 1b, +1.

      If you can't do what's needed for the role, then step aside and let someone else do it.

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    4. that's not how these things work silly, you hold onto it for as long as you can before it is ripped from your cold lifeless hands surrounded by the waste you've created.

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  2. I had no idea this was going on. I don't even know when/where it happened.

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  3. Who ever was in charge of marketing this really didn't do a good job. I'm on campus every single day and not once came across something that talked about it, or saw anything on social media. You can't get upset

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    1. Well now I'm upset at Feds for not advertising it.

      This is the VP Education's responsibility, so I assume this is his fault.

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    2. this is the responsibility of the elections and referenda committee, not the executive. blame her (the elections officer, who isn't on campus this term)

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  4. I would have attended if I knew it was happening.

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  5. Someone needs to blast Feds for poor advertising on this in the next issue of Imprint.

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    1. We're happy to take editorials! editor@imprint.uwaterloo.ca

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    2. 5a <3

      There have been some really good community editorials in Imprint over the last few months.

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  6. Seriously. Can we stop expecting governments to work? Feds is shit, just like of provincial and federal ones.

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    1. Theory: it's considerably smaller than those governments are, therefore we should have more individual power to directly influence it.

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    2. Or maybe you could not think you have the right to influence other peoples lives?

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    3. 6b when did I say anything about influencing other people's lives? I said we had the ability to democratically influence our Student Union, that's all.

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    4. Anarchy! So effective!

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    5. 6d, PRAISE HELIX

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  7. I believe 6b is referring to the government influencing other peoples lives because of their retarded belief in libertarianism

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    1. I like libertarianism as an idea, but where I have severe problems with it is that it doesn't really acknowledge the existence of the collective good in a community.

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    2. We should turn flex dollars into an unregulated currency accepted everywhere on campus, with an exchange rate determined by market demand.

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  8. didn't we already vote on this last year...?

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    1. Nope.

      If you're thinking of the March General Meeting, that was a vote to *have* a referendum on a Fall Reading Week - not a referendum on whether or not to shorten Orientation Week in exchange for an extra day or 2 off.

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  9. There was a referendum?

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    1. No, there will be a referendum.

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  10. Ehh, I care enough about it to vote, but I'm not passionate enough about it to be telling other people how they should vote.

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    1. That's all well and good! But presumably SOME people have strong feelings on either side about this, otherwise why even have a referendum?

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  11. Given what a shit option the referendum will be, are we really surprised that no one cared enough to form yes or no committees?

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  12. 11 yeah, really. If this had been a question like "should there be a fall reading week," then people would really care. But now it's just a lame "should we shorten Orientation Week and start fall classes on a Thursday, in exchange for an extra day or two off later in the term?" (not the exact question, but I'm paraphrasing accurately enough)

    ...lame question. Who cares?

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    1. Sounds like a lame question, but it lets students know what we're going to be giving up in exchange for the reading week.

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    2. 12a, you mean "it lets students know what we're going to be giving up in exchange for the day or two off." Unless a week is 1-2 days long in your world.

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    3. In my world, a day off is like a week off. So yes. Totes.

      But since you're not living in my world, I apologize for my error.

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    4. "should there be a fall reading week" is a dumb question, the fact is the calendar would have to change somehow, and it's important to find out what we would give up.

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  13. The reason why the question is worded the way it is is because of stupid attempting to be politically correct and inclusive bullshit...
    Thing is that the referendum doesn't really amount to much...the March general meeting asked whether we wanted a referendum, now we're having one and then it goes to the AGM of UW where all of the profs and faculty will vote no and that's that.

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    1. WOW 13... you really don't understand how any of this works, do you?

      The question's wording has nothing to do with political correctness. The execs worked with admin to figure out what was possible, they ran surveys to figure out what students were willing to give up, came up with one possibility, so they're asking us about it.

      If the result is yes, then that result will be presented to the UW Senate. Profs and faculty have been pushing for this to happen for years, so they'll say yes.
      If the result is no, then that result will still be presented to the UW Senate, who will take that into consideration, and probably fall back on this historical result that's about 50/50.

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  14. Everyone whining about no one being on the committees:
    Join one.

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    1. This thread established pretty well that the real problem wasn't that nobody came out to join the committees - it's that nobody even knew there was a meeting.

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  15. Who gives a shit? Two more years and I'll never see this place again

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  16. "one of the most important issues students have voted on in years"

    Yep, having a few days off at the beginning of the term or having a few days off in the middle of the term. Crazy game-changing shit right there. The result of this referendum will be in the history books for sure.

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    1. It will fundamentally change Orientation Week, which draws more volunteers targeted towards more students than any other single event on campus.
      What thing in recent years that Waterloo students have voted on, do you think was more important than this?

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    2. @16a: I'm not the person you replied to, but I just do not care. I really don't give a crap. I see ups and downs to both sides and I don't know what I prefer so I'm not going to bother "getting involved." I think it's somewhat inevitable that it's going to happen anyway regardless of student vote because other universities are doing it.

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