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OMG: Could UW please stop using words like "innovative," "creative," "vision," etc. I really don't think those are words that I would describe this institution as.

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  1. If you think there aren't any uniquely innovating things going on at Waterloo, then you haven't been paying attention.

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    1. Please name a few. I am sincerely curious.

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    2. 1a, my personal favourite example is basically everything related to Velocity - the residence, the garage, and the foundry.
      A startup incubator which has attracted millions of dollars in capital investment since its inception, encouraged hundreds of students to try starting their own business, and has led to several successful businesses that are now either standing alone in the KW community, or have been bought by tech giants like Google. The University provides the resources, the space, and the means for students to attempt to bring their ideas to life in a minimal risk environment. This was a very new idea when Waterloo started it, and you won't find anything like it on the same scale, anywhere in Canada.

      Then there's the work done by Engineering teams like Midnight Sun.

      Speaking of Engineering - the construction of E7 is in the works. To be paid entirely out of donations, it will be an 'innovation and entrepreneurship' building - not an academic building at all. Similar to Velocity, but not a residence, for engineers specifically, and on an even larger scale.

      And that's just on the student end of things - there are hundreds of businesses that have been started/are co-owned by uwaterloo profs, based on their own groundbreaking research. Waterloo Pharmaceuticals, for instance.

      Anyway, for some summary information, the Performance Indicators are a good place to start. Not all the data is useful to this topic - but there's definitely some stuff I've touched on, too.

      https://uwaterloo.ca/performance-indicators/sites/ca.performance-indicators/files/uploads/files/bog_package_final_revised16dec13_0.pdf

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    3. Who says Velocity was the university's idea?

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    4. 1c, who cares who had the idea? The point is that someone did, and the University didn't shoot it down. Instead they encouraged it, provided it with resources/funding, and eventually integrated it into their strategic plan. They even negotiated some private-public partnerships to help it stand on its own.

      Innovation in a post-secondary institution isn't about what ideas the administrators have. Its about their ability to recognize, support, and promote great ideas when they come along, and to create the conditions for that to happen by giving people with good and decent ideas a platform to stand on.

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    5. Lol spoken like a true student of UW. It doesn't matter who had the idea, or where the funding came from, but as long as it worked damn the rest. Lol. Truly an inspiring university.

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    6. 1e, that's not what I said at all. I said what matters is that the University encouraged a great idea and provided the funding/support to allow it to blossom.

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    7. UW didn't provide the funding, Livingston did after UW stepped in to prevent him from being sued by RIM/Blackberry for stealing patents while on co-op. I'll agree that's an innovative way to secure the funding.

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    8. 1b. I'm not sure where you are getting your information on E7, but from what I have heard, it is largely off track. Yes, part of the building will be dedicated to *teaching* entrepreneurship, but the 3rd floor will be all MME academic, 4th and 5th are for ECE, 6th is for SYDE and 7th will be for the dean's office. Sounds pretty academic to me.

      If I recall correctly, funding sources have not been released, aside from the one million from a proposed student fee to be set by a referendum this fall.

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  2. you need to look around.

    https://uwaterloo.ca/research/waterloo-commercialization-office-watco/intellectual-property

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    1. UW is the only university that does this?

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  3. Why is OP so butthurt?

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  4. OP, what program are you in? It might explain a lot why you think this way.

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  5. lol you wouldn't describe this institution as or you won't describe your program as? Butthurt much. Such a loser.

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    1. Are they accepting retards now for admission here? Shame.

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    2. ^No matter what the situation, the r word is never acceptable.

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    3. Why shouldn't we use the R word now? No one refers to the mentally challenged (or I guess I have to say 'differently abled' now). It's commonly accepted that retard has lost its original meaning, and there is a new, more PC term to replace it.

      You've probably used insults such as dumb, idiot, or moron and these all used to be scientific terms for people with disabilities.

      From Webster's dictionary and wikipedia:

      dumb: lacking the human power of speech
      idiot: An idiot, dolt, or dullard is an intellectually disabled person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way
      moron: "Moron is a term once used in psychology to denote mild intellectual disability... and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale"

      The point is that the connotation of these words changes over time. People need to grow a thicker skin and realize that these words are not attacks.

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    4. 5c, the correct response to a large mass of people being uncomfortable with a particular insult isn't to say "grow a thicker skin," but to accept that the insult you have chosen just isn't societally acceptable at this point in time.

      To be fair, it's still better than using 'gay' as a pejorative, but I digress.

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    5. Well then maybe society needs to change. Words are words, and it's the listener's choice to find it offensive.

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    6. 5e: "I'm not wrong, everybody else in the world just isn't doing things right."

      That's some flawed thinking. "Words are just words" disregards the expectation of basic human decency in a community, and the existence of a common underlying set of values. Quite frankly I find such a thing deeply offensive.

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    7. 5f: Not the whole world, but a majority. Just because a majority thinks in a certain way, doesn't mean its the best way.

      Basic human decency is all well and good, but what about idiot, moron, and dumb? These are all accepted in our society, yet they could be found offensive by some.

      Why should we have to limit our vocabulary to accomodate the most fragile of people who are offended by archaic words? Next you'll want us to stop saying "Oh my god" because it offends the religious.

      We live in an age where people are hypersensitive to political correctness, and it needs to stop.

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    8. 5g, I'm all for not being hypersensitive to political correctness. Honestly, I hate most of that PC crap.

      But there IS a line! "Not being overly politically correct," and "saying whatever you want to say without giving a damn how many people it offends" are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

      For most people, the location of the line between "avoiding overly offensive language" and "political correctness gone mad" is pretty intuitive. If you are not most people, using majority opinion to draw that line for you isn't an unreasonable way to go. 'Retard' is an offensive term that has - for the most part - gone the way of 'nigger' as a pejorative. And I sincerely hope it stays that way, at least until the original meaning of the word has been long-forgotten, and sounds as dated as referring to someone who is unable to speak as 'dumb' does today.

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    9. The only way to change the meaning of retard is to use it for its new meaning.

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    10. 5i on the contrary, you change it so that it falls out of use until the original meaning itself has been forgotten.

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  6. FUCK WATERLOO THIS SCHOOL IS FUCKING SHIT

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  7. Well "Innovative and visionary" sounds better than "boring and decrepit", ya gotta get new students coming here somehow

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    1. LOL this guy nailed it with that reply!

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  8. what words would you suggest then?

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    1. Insecure, Predictable, Pedantic

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    2. Shame you feel that way OP. Maybe you should consider transferring schools if you think this one sucks so much.

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    3. I have already done so. I don't see how that's relevant to why this university likes to falsely make claims they don't seem to uphold.

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    4. Again, that's your perspective. There are a great deal many here who would disagree with that perspective.

      Since you've moved on, how about you allow yourself to be happy with where you are now, instead of hating on a school that you don't even go to anymore?

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    5. How about someone answers the question put forth rather than trying to deflect it?

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    6. 8e, you didn't really put forward much of a question. It sounded far more like a criticism.

      So I guess to answer your question: no, uwaterloo can't stop using those words. It wouldn't fit well with its strategic plan.

      You can read this plan here: https://uwaterloo.ca/strategic-plan/

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    7. You forgot conservative, OP.

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  9. It's the researchers and the students who are the source of the innovation here. The university's brand and reputation attracts those sorts of entrepreneurial minds - and then provides them with encouragement, resources, and full rights over their own intellectual property.

    Look at the Quantum Nano Centre - a critical mass of some of the brightest minds in the fields of nanotechnology engineering, quantum computing, and physics, all together in the same state-of-the-art building. The work they do may well be seen, in 100 years time, as the 'Bell Labs' of the 21st century, laying the groundwork for a 'quantum revolution' that changes computing technology as we currently know it. And that's just one example of the things that go on here.

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    1. I'll agree with the Nano Centre being innovative. Who else would make the 1/256th ply toilet paper?

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    2. 9.a - So THATS where they get that stuff. Whenever I drop the kids off at the pool in E5 the toilet paper tears as soon as I try to pull it out of the spool. Then if I actually get a piece I have to double it over so I don't just end up rubbing my asshole.

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    3. 9a&b, i do believe this thin toilet paper is a very strategic move

      if you needed thicker toilet paper, you simply use more and fold it

      but if you had only thick toilet paper, there are several asswiping models of folded toilet paper one simply wouldn't be in the position to make easily

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  10. can anyone give examples of schools in Canada that are actually more innovative/do more to boost entrepreneurship than UW?
    I mean - I hate UW as much as the next person, but I still have to commend UW for being one of the most entrepreneurship focused schools. Does any Canadian school have something as strong as velocity or garage?

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    1. 10, there are a couple other schools that have *similar* (and newer) programs, as well as schools of entrepreneurship... but the programs Waterloo has are the biggest you'll find in Canada.

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  11. Waterloo is great deal with it. If you don't find anyone interesting in a University which has 35,000 students then maybe you should ask yourself a few questions and find out what is going wrong with you

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    1. Lol. Go back to kindergarten.

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  12. To all the people who claim to hate this school, why bother coming here? Or why bother not transferring in second year?

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    1. Already have. Why waste time at an inferior school like UW?

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