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Updated on Wednesday, September 17

#19790

OMG: Are there any other first years who've met students that have 93+ averages from high school but lack basic lab knowledge? There has to be a better way to standardize marking because these students don't even know what they're doing, how can they have a 95 in chem and have never titrated before?

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  1. Rude, maybe some schools don't have funding for the equipment required for a titration...

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    1. lmao how could a school not afford basic lab equipment. Canadian schools all get equivalent funding to prevent upper class area public schools from having an advantage

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    2. 1a that's not actually true. The funding formula for schools differs from province to province, and some provinces have more money to spend on education than others.

      In Ontario, for instance, taxpayers are allowed to choose whether they want their tax dollars to go towards the public education system, or the catholic one. But the default destination is 'public,' unless you say otherwise.

      And even once the funding is allotted (to school BOARDS, not to the schools themselves), what goes where is entirely up to the Boards. Making ends meet is NOT a simple process - and there absolutely ARE schools in small rural counties who can't afford basic lab equipment.

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  2. I used to be a titrator like you but then I took an arrow to my knee

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    1. shut the fuck up

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    2. 2011 called, they want their Skyrim joke back.

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    3. It's okay 2, I for one still think that joke is funny. :)

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  3. its called cheating, begging for marks or teachers trying to look good. Education in Canada is a joke ask anyone from countries with a British education system.

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    1. I came from the 'Superior British Education System' and my shit got rocked

      how

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  4. STFU you pretentious, glorious, winged phaggot

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  5. tbh it all depends on school board, and sometimes depends more on your teacher. for example, i had a shitty chemistry grade 12 teacher who didn't teach us anything to with labs, and if we did do labs it was literally gr 9 stuff. nothing advanced. Yet, I got a 95% in chemistry. But I literally dont know shit when it comes to labs. Be easy on people, you really don't know where they came from. They'll eventually learn.

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  6. To the same end, I worked with a mech eng co-op and asked him to drill a hole in a plate for something I was putting together.

    The guy is missing for 2 hours and I still have no plate. I found him in the office looking up how to use a drill press on youtube with a mangled drill bit half stuck at the wrong location in the plate......

    He did not know how to use the drill press, did not want to ask me to show him as he should have learned it already, and didn't know how to read the diagram I gave him.

    He quickly turned into the "surface prep bitch" as his machining skills did not develop.

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    1. At least he tried. You also have people complaining about co-ops asking how to do things instead of googling it and trying to teach themselves.

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    2. 8a, it's a tricky balance to strike. You don't want to be going to your manager/co-workers to have them show you how to do every little thing - you should be resourceful enough to figure some things out for yourself.

      But you also need to be up-front about what you do and do not know. In 8's example, the co-op allowed 8 to believe that he knew how to do the task given to him, when he actually had no clue. The result? Time (and money, by the sound of it) wasted and nothing accomplished.
      Had he been honest right from the get-go, and said "I don't really know how to do that, but I'm going to figure it out and get you what you need," the result may have been better for everyone.

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  7. I took grade 11 and 12 chem in two different high schools. Grade 11 we did titration and plenty of other stuff. Grade 12 that teacher did not make us do ANY labs and therefore when i was in first year, i did not know how to write a lab report at all. It really depends on the school and the teacher's effort...

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  8. well...Ontario is not a good place to study nature sciences, it's much better in pure sciences and math though

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    1. I learned to write reports in grade 9 and to titrate in grade 10...

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