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>Being a diligent student does not cut it anymore when it comes to transforming an undergraduate education into a worth-while career.

Must feel nice to take a shit on everyone who's actually worked hard to get to where they are now.

http://modelviewculture.com/pieces/the-pressures-of-success-in-undergraduate-computer-science-programs

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  1. stop fucking spamming this link. no one gives a shit. your writing is fucking terrible. your opinions are fucking stupid

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  2. Are you sure you're not misunderstanding the article? She said hard work was not enough to get a worth-while career.

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    1. OP does not understand one or both of these points:
      1) the fact that people can work hard but still fail and shit (not because they're lazy)
      2) people can succeed without being an arrogant dick about it

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  3. This article is ridiculous. The first sentence (quoted here) has nothing to do with the rest of the article. She's basically complaining that there isn't enough support for people with mental illness, or that they're too "busy" (I call that lazy).

    She also states that "students are using internships like grades to measure their self-worth, compare themselves to other students, and discredit others’ accomplishments to make themselves feel better by contrast."

    Says who? I think the author of this article is speaking for other students waaay too much. She may define herself by grades and internships, but that's not all students. I think this girl needs to stop being so dramatic and go get some help for her anxiety or whatever.

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    1. "or that they're too 'busy' (I call that lazy)."
      She did point out how heavy she found the workload. I agree with her. It is difficult to find and use the resources. They are time consuming. I've had my doctor recommend I take a course or two off so that I'd have time for therapy sessions.

      "Says who?"
      The people who are honest and insightful enough to admit it. Not only that, but the arrogance and toxic culture of her program is rampant and insidious. I've been in various faculties, and I completely agree with her.

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  4. CS is less competitive than engineering and AFM. Engineering has a fucking class rank # that they give you every now and then, and AFM is a toxic cutthroat environment. The OP really needs to deal more with mental health, I'm pretty sure that most CS students that dont have mental health problems aren't comparing themselves to others that much.

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    1. I have noticed as well that there is way less competition in CS, unless youre in DD or some specialized program. Students in engineering programs tend to use up all of their 50 job applications while students in CS take it easy and apply to 10-15 at a time. There really isn't any pressure to seeing your peers get amazing jobs. It's the real world, you have to deal with people who may be apparently more qualified than you. The academic curriculum can be tough at times, I agree. It can be tough to juggle job hunting and midterms, and maybe managing some kind of social life or organizing some club, but that's something you have to master/get used to after 5-6 times through, right?

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  5. Lol this is bull-shit with capital letters, I haven't encountered this one bit in my program... and people in my program are pretty competitive too

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  6. Working hard =/= working correctly.

    Just because you study all your content word for word, and memorize it all to a t doesn't mean that you're what companies look for. It's a shame that more classes at UW don't teach critical thinking and criticism along with course material, students are sponges for knowledge, but once they have that knowledge, they don't really know how to process it or think about the alternatives or implications that the knowledge might hold.

    That's why so many companies don't hire our co-op students: they're essentially brainless grease monkeys who are wicked smart and confident in their intelligence, but are overspecialized and not diverse enough in their width of knowledge to actually tackle real-world problems.

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