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OMG: I'm living in down town Toronto for the summer and I've noticed that there are hipsters everywhere..everywhere. Some I wonder how they can afford to live downtown. It seems like most of them are bummy and don't really do much; I know that's me being judgemental but damn how do they do it?

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  1. honestly if they can anyone can. But the truth is your typical hipster is a white guy studying "history" at uft, york or other college there, who have moderately to pretty darn rich parents who can support their lifestyle.

    Not being judgemental either, just observant...

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  2. It's nice when mommy and daddy have money.

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    1. Is this really something to look down on people for? Just because my parents help me though school doesn't mean I'm a spoiled brat who doesn't have a job or hasn't worked hard for anything in my life.

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    2. 2 yes it is, I love that my parents are helping me :)

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    3. My parents help me through school but that doesn't make me spoiled. I pay for my own food, clothing, and utilities using the money I've earned from working, and I've never asked for more from them. I am extremely grateful for their help.

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    4. Nothing wrong with your parents helping or footing the bill. They worked hard to be where they are so why not help their kids out? As long as the kid works hard and succeeds I see no issue with it. If you're footing the bill for someone who doesn't care about their future then there's an issue.

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    5. My parents pay for my education and bought me a car in second year. I don't see anything wrong with your parents helping to improve your life using the money they've earned as long as you don't have the expectation that it is their duty.

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    6. I think people who are well off don't realize how stressful it is to not have anyone to depend on...

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  3. They could live in shitty areas like near transmission towers..
    Plus, some areas along the subway line are fucking awful and not that expensive compared to the suburbs.
    Don't forget about community housing and welfare lol

    But OP, don't judge a book by its cover..

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  4. Probably the same way you can afford to live downtown OP?

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  5. A lot of those people are students who are living off their parents' money, or they work morning shifts at places like Starbucks. (6am-12pm work, rest of the day to loaf)

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    1. i have no idea how people can be happy with such a mundane and non-stimulating life

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    2. 5a not everyone defines themselves by where they work. They can be artists musicians, something else that is stimulation but not high paying. There's more than one way to live.

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    3. I can see how a mundane job would be nice. I'm usually too tired to work on my passion projects during co-op terms, and I never had that problem with service jobs in high school.

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    4. If you're a "hipster" like the OP says, then they probably don't mind grinding out their morning at a service industry job and then spending the rest of the day doing creative stuff or whatever hipsters do

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  6. Many of them have shared living accommodations and aren't living in top-quality housing. You can find single rooms in Toronto for very similar prices to what you can find in Waterloo. Other than that, most living expenses in T.O are the same as the Loo. So they manage it in much the same way that anyone else does.

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    1. Wait what. Toronto housing is definitely not similar to Waterloo in prices. A mediocre shared place in Toronto costs as much as a luxurious shared place/fair quality bachelor apartment in Waterloo.

      U of T students also don't get free transit like we do. They need to buy separate monthly passes.

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    2. Coming from someone who moved from Waterloo to Toronto, living expenses are definitely higher. Aside housing prices, grocery store prices are surprisingly high in the city. Then you have transit as 6.a mentioned and social aspects (i.e. there's more to do/see/eat).

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    3. As someone who grew up and lives in Toronto, all of my friends have places in the $500-$600 range that are comparable to what you can find in Waterloo for similar prices. Just don't live in the trendy areas. And I didn't find Waterloo to be very good for grocery store prices because there aren't any No Frills or Price Choppers (at least that I was aware of).

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    4. @6a the bus pass isn't free it's nearly 80$.

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    5. $80 per term is a lot cheaper than most other schools/buying it directly from the transit service.

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    6. @6e that is true, though there are some school which are cheaper. I said it was 80$ to address 6a's comment about it being free.

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    7. Why are we discussing bus passes? The hipsters get around in car shares or on their fixie bikes.

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    8. Everyone in Toronto gets around with the TTC including the hipsters. They ride their one speeds as much as they can but they definitely rely on the TTC like most people in DT

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  7. Most are working at random ass jobs. It's pretty hard to classify them. Ranges from hipster bars to publishing houses, to regular jobs like law interns/engineers. To be honest some people probably think I look like a hipster and I'm in engineering.

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    1. I love hipster engineerings - can we meet?

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  8. I am a Waterloo eng student who looks somewhat hipster-y, living in a tiny shared apartment downtown with genuine hipsters. Some of my friends have good hipster jobs (working at theatre companies) and some do other stuff to support their art habits (from stonemasonry to second cup). All of them seem pretty busy, though, so maybe we're thinking of different hipsters.

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    1. The expression 'good hipster jobs' sounds funny, lol.

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  9. I've seen the same thing downtown. I'm not saying all hipsters but some of them just don't look like they have much going for them. Doesn't make sense to me how they afford to live DT and ride thousand dollar road bikes.

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  10. Hipster is so cliche

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  11. Why does someone's style directly determine their income? How do you know they are not some programmer making $50/hr? Some of the biggest hipsters I know are doing well for themselves.

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    1. Have you seen a lot of Toronto's hipsters? They're not doing well for them selves. It's as if they work to maintain that downtown life style and nothing else

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    2. 11a -> your definition of "maintain" could be their definition of 'life". If they are the embodiment of this "hipster" culture that you speak of it's effortless and the only natural way for them to live life. That's just who they are, rather than give out biased judgment why not first understand the happiness they have in life? And then reevaluate whatever comfortable life you have, and see that everyone has different ways of living and becoming happy.

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    3. @11b. I have alot of "hipster" friends that live in downtown. I was brought up in DT and have seen this my whole life. A lot of them are struggling to make it by and they choose to live like that. They won't change their ways even if it meant they could live more comfortably. None of them are dirt poor or anything but none of them are doing well. Rent, transit pass, bike, food, clothes, money to do things..it isn't cheap and a lot of them are okay with living with almost no savings. Sure a lot of them may be happy now but they'll continue to struggle and it's only going to get harder as you age. There's also a lot that succeed and have jobs that pay well or own small business but those aren't the hipsters OP is talking about.

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  13. You think Toronto is full of hipsters? Check out Vancouver sometime. Even bigger paradox cause Van is like 2x as expensive

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