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Updated on Sunday, May 18

#18130

OMG: I can't believe there are students who say they won't vote because they don't care/know enough about the parties when the conservatives are trying to get rid of the 30% off tuition grant. Good to know students would rather pay more than bother to vote.

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  1. Good to know people care more about a 30% tuition grant than making sure our province doesn't go bankrupt...and guess who's going to pay for it 20 years from now?

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    1. what if i wanna get outta ontario asap after i'm done with school and osap?

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    2. 1.a then vote for Libs cause you can party now and leave the bill on others later.

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  2. I was going to vote PC until I saw their education plan. Removing eas from schools, larger class sizes, increasing tuition for university students? I understand cuts are needed, but that is not the way.

    I don't want to vote liberal or ndp though... ugh

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    1. Look at your riding, and determine which is the 2nd party against PC. Then vote for that party.

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    2. 2a strategic voting doesn't work.

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  3. Why should we have to pay for our governments inability to manage money properly? They shouldn't be taking money from people in need in order to fix the problem they created.

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    1. Unfortunately, young people always have to pay for mistakes of older generations. At least with a new government, we can stop making the problem worse.

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  4. The worst is when you live super close and you're not sure if you should vote where you go to school or back home. Decisions made at either place impact me just as equally...

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    1. Vote where you think it will be closer. Tell all your friends to vote in both ridings.

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  5. I'm voting PC. I don't even get the 30% tuition grant, so not a single fuck is given.

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    1. If you're from Ontario it's such a simple application that you could've filled out to get some of your money back.

      If you're not, I'm sorry and I guess I get how you might think it doesn't apply to you but your vote still counts and matters for students who really need that kind of financial aid.

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    2. My parental income is over 160k, therefore not eligible. Besides, it's a rather silly grant in the first place, given how a university degree has a massive expected return over a person's career. If anything, improved OSAP loans would be better.

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    3. Pretty easy for you to say it's a silly grant when you don't use it. Some of us rely on grants such as those to get the degree in the first place.

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    4. Someone has to pay for the degree, and if it isn't the student, it's taxpayers as a whole. Given how a degree is worth huge amounts of money in terms of lifetime earnings, it's entirely reasonable to have to pay something approaching the true cost of it. It might also help reduce the massive oversupply of arts degrees.

      Sufficient loans to allow degree completion should definitely be provided though, with fair repayment terms, in order to make university accessible.

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    5. Not meaning to sound like a butthurt arts student but is it only arts degrees that are oversupplied? Or is it just the scale in which the degrees are being given at?

      I understand though. We, as a nation, cannot just be handing out money to anyone who thinks they might like to get a degree.

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    6. Assuming that literally thousands upon thousands of other "educated" children with no real life experience will not water down the true value of a degree now.

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  6. This is my last term as a student. Is it cool if I don't give a fuck now?

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    1. There are more issues, you should check them out

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    2. @6a: No fuck you telling me what to do. Freaking fascist.

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  7. Vote Libertarian yolo

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  8. Weird- I never cared about voting and I always thought that my vote didn't make a difference but (I'm not being sarcastic) this one post somehow made me wanna vote... I really don't understand why because I'm sure I've heard some good reasons in the past that I just didn't find compelling, but yeah... I'm gonna go get informed and then vote next time. I'm really confused by why this changed my mind so easily- maybe it's a mixture of this post + other things in my life. Not sure but thanks.

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  9. I was gonna vote PC for lulz until they asserted they were srs about American style conservatism. Gosh, now I'll have to vote NDP, thanks conscience...

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  10. I would rather vote than pay more... but I'm still not going to vote, because me voting won't make any difference on whether or not I pay more.

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    1. This election is very close, and this riding has been close in the past. One or two ridings would have been important last election and if you check out this riding federally in 2008, you'll realise how close it can be.

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  11. Yeah. A few votes could determine the outcome... so it could well be that if you don't vote, you'll pay more.

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  12. Always vote, even if it is for nobody.

    If you don't like what the government is doing, write your MP's and MPP's. Try to have some involvement.

    The PC's will cut and slash Ontario so badly, you won't know what happened.

    Don't worry, you'll get tax breaks after you graduate your 3x higher tuition institution. No more handouts, just tax cuts!

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    1. Ha, I've done co-op terms in government departments, and half of the people could get cut with minimal effect on performance. Tax cuts would be far more useful.

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  13. Many other reasons not to vote conservative as well...such as them wanting to cut 100,000 public sector jobs and saying they will somehow create 1,000,000 jobs - how, with magic? Here`s the plan, it makes no sense: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-votes-2014/tim-hudak-s-1-million-jobs-plan-a-detailed-breakdown-1.2642354

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  14. I'm voting PC because in two years I wont be a student anymore and wont need the tuition break...besides, my parents pay for my school and I don't even qualify for the break.

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