that article is so awkwardly written omg.
UWaterloo sucks. People are just delusional about how wonderful it is. The campus sucks, asshole people, crappy research, crappy profs...meh
^u in art?
uw's arts wasn't even ranked by QShttp://www.topuniversities.com/institution/university-waterloo
Never understood how a lot of these rankings work. Why are unis like University of Montreal or UOttawa ranked higher?
Still got my 6 figure starting salary from co-op no complaints here.
U of Ottawa offered me free ride for Chem Eng. The only person I knew in High school who went there for Engineering didn't even take enough U-level courses to go to most places and told me they drank 5 days a week and no one actually worked. I'm not sure what the ranks are based on and I'm not saying that this is definitely all that happens there, but still 'lol'
"After 100, universities appear in groups and are not assigned individual numbers.""Montreal is now ranked 84th, while Ottawa is at 171."???
it really bothers me to see waterloo ranked so poorly. is there a person that i can write to as a way of showing that i think more action can be taken to work on waterloo's status?
Oh no, fell in rankings for one year! It's totally a trend! The sky is falling! Abandon ship!...idiot...
I think the reason these other Canadian university are ranked higher than Waterloo is because they have better graduate programs and their own medical schools.
UW doesn't have a law school or a medical school. We're also in a relatively small urban area when compared to Toronto or Vancouver or Montreal, sites of the other Canadian schools mentioned in the article. We'll likely do better next year when the labs in the QNC are n full swing.Sad to see the Science rankings though, ouch...- Science undergrad
This shit changes year to year. And if your school is anywhere on that list, it's basically good, especially in Canada.It's pretty meaningless, don't get your panties in a bunch.
Anyone who ever thought people outside of Canada cared about Waterloo (except CS and engineering, maybe) is misinformed. Waterloo is run of the mill for almost all programs.
^ Very true. My friend in Boston is completing her MBA for business at Harvard, I asked her if she knew about Waterloo. Her reply was no. I asked if her friends at MIT heard of Waterloo. Her reply was no.
^ how funny ur comparing MIT to UW. In the states, they don't care about canadian schools (or Canada in general haha....)
Most people in the states don't know what Ontario is...
^ They care about the big three (Toronto, McGill, UBC)
^ They care about the fact that ur from one of the big 3 if u earned a master degree with 3.0+ GPA
@14: "Weeell, if you ignore the good programs at Waterloo then no one cares about it." I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.You guys should also realize that your diploma is kind of useless in most situations. It's good for bragging, hanging on walls and maybe getting your first job. Maybe.I think I could remove the education section from my resume entirely and still get about the same number of interviews.
These rankings are primarily based on research statistics, endowment funding, and statistics like size of library collections. A typical university at the top of the list has a medical and law school and varied graduate programs, as well as a rich tradition and large endowments.Waterloo is a relatively young, industry-focused university, exactly the type of university most penalized by the rankings. Though our undergraduate programs are very good, our research funding and findings, despite improving, aren't at the same level as a top-100 university. For instance, I believe no professor here is a Nobel Laureate (Stephen Hawking is PI, not IQC).In order to gain a higher ranking, Waterloo would need to attract the top tier of researchers and professors and associated research funding, especially in areas which are not as strong (i.e. arts). We would need, for instance, more Canada Research Chairs, Nobel Laureates, etc.
@RL. No. You couldn't. You have no transferable skills related to the workforce outside of your "education."
^ How about my nearly 2 years of development experience and multiple projects that I've delivered during my work terms? I'd say that could lead to some "transferable" skills.Just fyi, my education by itself (apart from my algorithms courses maybe) hasn't given me much that I've used at work directly.
^ Would you have attained that development experience outside of a subsidized co-op? No. Those companies would not have even glanced at your resume without some form of university admission.
^ Yes, that is true, you need *some* university degree in most cases (although if I self-taught everything and did a bunch of open-source work I'd still be able to get into many companies). My point is that the diploma itself is pretty much useless, especially if you've already worked somewhere.
@21: qft.@14,15: I know people from top-tier private high schools in California who are seriously considering Waterloo for Engineering and CS, right alongside MIT and UC. On top of that, their school's robotics team has placed first internationally, is directly funded by NASA, and one of their coaches is a Waterloo grad.I wouldn't expect people doing an MBA or their friends to have heard of Waterloo anyway; it's a completely different field, and I'm pretty sure you could probably find people at Schulich who haven't heard of Waterloo.