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Here comes the end of another co-op term. Remember to rate your co-op job.
Here comes the end of another co-op term. Remember to rate your co-op job.
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Monday, August 13.
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August 13, 2012 at 7:39 PM
No.
Disregarding the fact that you probably run and/or work for www.ratemycoopjob.com (and, in that case, nice astroturfing there, bro), it's doing nobody any good to sneak behind someone's back and talk shit about them, regardless of whether they're a company or not. If you have a problem with your company, talk to your boss about it. If your boss is a dick, now is a great time to find out good ways to deal with dicks in the workplace - you can become more assertive in your requests, explain it to them in another way, talk to HR about it, or do what everybody else does and google "What do I do if my boss is a jerk?" and see what comes up (hint: the American advice is useless, we have different laws). In any case, people are dicks in the real world, too, and telling all the other kids in the school yard to stay away from the weird kid is real mature. Grow some balls and learn how to work with people who aren't exactly like you.
If you're having a legitimate problem with your employer, especially something that's questionably moral/legal, you have a co-op adviser for a reason - they just hired a shitload of new people for this exact purpose, and they're more than willing to help you out. In fact, it's why they get paid, so you should be talking to them every time a question comes up. There's a lot of shit CECS does badly, but giving you someone to talk to when you're potentially in a foreign country isn't one of them.
Plus, maybe you didn't like your job but the next guy will love it - now you're fucking over a potentially awesome partnership. I've had co-op jobs where the next guy came in and ran shit, where I'd have ranked it "meh."
tl;dr - Co-op job rating sites are bullshit and turn work into high school all over again.
August 13, 2012 at 7:42 PM
@1, yeah just like people DON'T use rate your prof. People should just grow some balls and learn how to deal with shitty profs right?
August 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM
@1 Lol wtf? Do you even read any of the posts on the site? It's actually extremely useful and helps many students make decisions for applying and ranking. Obviously you get the scattered hater ratings that don't explain why the person disliked the place, but those ratings shouldn't be trusted.
Why waste 4 months at a place that you are gonna hate or be uncomfortable with? This is what Glassdoor is for, too.
August 13, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Yea #1 is full of shit. If you don't use rating sites such as this you can end up with terrible jobs or terrible profs (David Toman). It really is a good idea to rate your job.
August 13, 2012 at 9:00 PM
I've never used the site, but the idea alone seems worthy, @1.
Co-op students are often given one weekend to determine which offer they are going to take, often with very little information (if possible, gleaned from the interview itself) and no recourse for further contact with the company to confirm details of the position. I've been put in this position multiple times, and have additional information, of any kind, is tremendously helpful.
Its not just about whether your boss is a "dick," frankly that is the least of your concerns. Questions about living arrangements, transportation, the general work environment, all play into the decision. This has nothing to do with highschool melodrama.
As for your second paragraph of helpful advice, co-op advisers are not there, and will not, independently advise each and every student on their offers and what they believe to be the best. They serve much more general administrative roles and oversee thousands of students. Questions about switching co-op terms? They've got you. Need to remove yourself from a job interview? They (may) have you (depending on how often you've done it in the past). If you get offers at noon on Friday, like everybody else, they will not sit patiently while a stampede of students runs in to ask an adviser to help with their individual decision. To use moral/legal questions at work as an example is completely ridiculous. Of the many factors that affect the quality of one's experience, legally questionable work is the least likely and most obvious to fix (duh, its covered by multiple pieces of legislation).
And yes, everybody will have a different view of jobs. As they will professors, as they will electronics, as they will cars, as they will businesses, etc. etc. etc. Would you still prefer we just never talk to each other about that? The smart student takes in what they've learned from the employers, from other students (which happens just as much), and from sites like these and views each critically in making their decision. The more information the better.
August 13, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Hopefully #1 is a troll...because otherwise he's an idiot.
August 13, 2012 at 9:33 PM
@1: YEAH, and reviews of products are for fucking CHILDREN!
August 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM
@1, WTF? Talking shit? How are these talking shit?
"One of the greatest things about ATA is this concept called "core hours". Basically, you have to be in the office between 1pm and 4pm. Otherwise, you chose your hours. Also included are an awesome team, great pay and the most comfortable beanbag chairs known to mankind. First employer I actually returned to."
"Good Salary. Amazon.com is a very large company so co-op experience can vary depending on what team you are matched with. For me there were many perks: pool table, dance floor, company cruise, intern events, etc. Co-ops are given a lot of responsibility and are treated more like full time employees. "
ETC..
They are helpful reviews. Are product reviews not to be trusted either? Fucking idiot.
August 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM
This is OP:
I do no own or work for that site.
I publicize that site twice per term, once at application once at the end of term. I do this because I have been stuck at shitty jobs before. I don't want other people to go through the same.
August 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM
^ every job title on that site sounds pretty shitty. I guess people come to university to prepare for a life of being fucking bored to tears day-in-and-day-out.
August 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM
@10, shitty or not depends on perspective. Your comment suggests that YOU are the one not suited to these reviewed jobs. Please go start your own company and make the rest of us proud.