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I am torn. On the one hand I think the students should reject the new student building based on what the admin did with Fed Hall. On the other hand would doing that be a case of cutting the nose off to spite the face?
I am torn. On the one hand I think the students should reject the new student building based on what the admin did with Fed Hall. On the other hand would doing that be a case of cutting the nose off to spite the face?
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Monday, July 9.
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July 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM
The admin fucked you on Fed Hall because the students had been bent over and begging for it for years.
That place sucked, it was a dump, there were security problems, only deutsche bags went there.
Now that it's gone, who cares? There are plenty of other dumps around town that students can ruin.
July 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Maybe instead of getting a new building we should find a way to prioritize the space we already have. For example every classroom of every building is not always in use. If there was a schedule somewhere of when the classrooms were in use and when they were free, students could use that space to study.
July 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM
What the Admin did with Fed hall was ask Feds for it and they signed it over. Why would we reject a building made specifically for us?
July 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM
why cant we revamp the slc for something along the lines of a student life centre?
July 9, 2012 at 2:20 PM
This new building, I can only get behind it if the newly shoehorned SSO keeps out. I have yet to see any actual lasting benefit to students from this so called "student centric" group. All I have seen so far is student grief. I really hope their budget isn't excessive.
July 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM
@2 is called walk to a classroom, see if its in use, proceed untill you find one that is free
@5 of course it is, as with everything here
July 9, 2012 at 3:32 PM
@6 their budget is huge!
July 9, 2012 at 11:21 PM
The SSO has over a 5 million dollar budget. In comparison - feds' is 2 million.
July 10, 2012 at 1:57 AM
SSO is useless bureaucracy. This sort of thing should be dealt with by the individual faculties, as they know their students actually want. SSO can go fuck themselves.
July 10, 2012 at 2:41 AM
Note: I am not directly involved in the negotiation of the new student building, but I am going to be watching carefully.
I think that we shouldn't pass judgement until the final agreement comes out between the Federation and the University, for two reasons.
The first is that the negotiations being conducted by the Feds and the University are still ongoing, despite recent setbacks, and no one is totally sure about what the final result will look like. I've heard a few things that make me think it's worth waiting, although I don't know how good or bad it will be.
The second is to keep up pressure. If we simply reject the building on the basis of what happened with Fed Hall, we're passing up the opportunity to use it as a bargaining chip to end up better off. We may be able to end up in a better position overall. The University admin want to see this issue dealt with; we just need to make sure that dealing with it by forgetting about it doesn't become an option (the current Feds board are doing a good job of this, from what I hear).
@3: No. The University unilaterally terminated the lease.
As for the SSO, I've heard much good and much bad. I think the jury's still out on it, and it's going to be a fair bit of work to fix the bad and keep the good.
The SSO will have space in the new building unless the University changes its mind, but that space will be paid for by the University, not the students.
As usual, feel free to comment/ask questions here or drop me a email.
Sean
Senator
July 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM
The only good things I've seen out of the SSO so far are initiatives that they took over from other parts of the university. Much of the rest looks as if it wad designed for the lowest common denominator. Let's "reclaim ourselves," or how about fill our stressful schedules with MORE class (over 8 weeks) to teach us how to be less stressed. Totally logical.
Hey guys, life is a sport, let's succeed by getting a "success coach." Guess who gets fired first in most sports. Hint: its not the athlete.
SSO? Back off.